topic Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 in Get your taxes done using TurboTax https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2863#M1881 <P>I paid state taxes from previous years in 2017.&nbsp; I followed the instructions to claim this under "prior year state or local tax payments".&nbsp; It was the last thing I filled out in turbo tax and it did not change anything on my federal tax refund.&nbsp; My federal tax refund stayed the same.&nbsp; It did reduce how much I owed to my state.&nbsp; Can anyone tell me why that is?</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:10:52 GMT mloley 2018-04-15T21:10:52Z Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2863#M1881 <P>I paid state taxes from previous years in 2017.&nbsp; I followed the instructions to claim this under "prior year state or local tax payments".&nbsp; It was the last thing I filled out in turbo tax and it did not change anything on my federal tax refund.&nbsp; My federal tax refund stayed the same.&nbsp; It did reduce how much I owed to my state.&nbsp; Can anyone tell me why that is?</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:10:52 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2863#M1881 mloley 2018-04-15T21:10:52Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2864#M1882 <P>State taxes are deductible only if you itemize deductions (<A title="What is Schedule A?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901553-what-is-schedule-a" target="_blank">Schedule A</A>).&nbsp;Since they didn't make a difference, perhaps you&nbsp;either claimed the <A title="What's my standard deduction?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901553-what-is-schedule-a" target="_blank">standard deduction</A>&nbsp;or your tax liability was already zero before you entered the state tax payments.</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:07:44 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2864#M1882 LindaA 2018-04-15T23:07:44Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2877#M1883 <P>I double checked and my deductions are itemized.&nbsp; There is a Schedule A form and that same total is listen on my 1040 and my tax liability is not 0.&nbsp; Still a little confused as to why that had no impact on my Fed Tax refund.&nbsp; Did I input it in the wrong place?</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:18:29 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2877#M1883 mloley 2018-04-15T22:18:29Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2883#M1884 <P>I just went through it again.&nbsp; The amount is entered correctly&nbsp;on line 7 of the state and local tax deduction worksheet.&nbsp; That total from line 22 of the state and local tax deduction worksheet is correct on line 5 of my schedule A .&nbsp; If I change the $2300 to $1 and let turbotax recalculate my federal return of $65 doesn't change at all. &nbsp;</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:44:36 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2883#M1884 mloley 2018-04-15T22:44:36Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2887#M1885 <P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>Can you preview your 1040&nbsp; and take a looks at lines 40 - 44 for both of those amounts (first for $2,300 and then for $1)?&nbsp;&nbsp;</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:07:04 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2887#M1885 LindaA 2018-04-15T23:07:04Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2898#M1886 <P>lines 40, 41 and 45 changed by that amount.&nbsp; it was 2390 total and changed by 2389 when I changed it to $1.&nbsp; line 42 did not change, line 44 changed by $667.&nbsp; My total fed tax was $48,157 married filing jointly.</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:19:30 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2898#M1886 mloley 2018-04-15T23:19:30Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2903#M1887 <P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>Just to verify, you have an amount on line&nbsp;45 (alternative minimum tax) and your tax on line&nbsp;63 is $48,517?&nbsp;</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:39:40 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2903#M1887 LindaA 2018-04-15T23:39:40Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2911#M1888 <P>Yes I do have an amount on line 45 - $375 AMT.&nbsp; Not sure what that is, I have never looked at that before.&nbsp; And yes the amount on line 63 is $48,157. &nbsp; BTW - thank you for all your help!</P> Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:58:22 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2911#M1888 mloley 2018-04-15T23:58:22Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2914#M1889 <P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>I'm happy to help. It seems the alternative minimum tax (AMT) applies to you this year, hence you're not seeing an increase in your refund. For more information, please see the following FAQs:</P> <P><A title="What is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899184-what-is-the-alternative-minimum-tax-amt" target="_blank">What is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)?</A></P> <P><A title="Why am I getting hit with the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax)?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/3266532-why-am-i-getting-hit-with-the-amt-alternative-minimum-tax" target="_blank">Why am I getting hit with the AMT?</A></P> Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:07:40 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2914#M1889 LindaA 2018-04-16T00:07:40Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2940#M1890 <P>Thanks Linda.&nbsp; I have one last question.&nbsp; I went back over the last 3 years and haven't had an AMT.&nbsp; We did have an increase in AGI of about $50,000.&nbsp; When I first was reading about deducting state taxes paid for previous years an article stated that it should be place in "<SPAN>miscellaneous deductions</SPAN>".&nbsp; So I first placed the $2300 there.&nbsp; Until I later figured out that was the wrong place to put it.&nbsp; After reading the links you shared it does say high <SPAN>miscellaneous deductions</SPAN> is a trigger for AMT.&nbsp; Could I have accidently triggered that myself by initially placing the $2300 in miscellaneous deductions?&nbsp; Is there a way to back out that trigger on turbotax or could I start all over(start a new tax return) and see if&nbsp;doing that still triggers the AMT?&nbsp; Or am I just barking up the wrong tree?</P> Mon, 16 Apr 2018 01:03:23 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2940#M1890 mloley 2018-04-16T01:03:23Z Re: Paid state taxes from previous years in 2017 https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2950#M1891 <P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>Clearing and starting over probably wouldn't make a difference. Your income did go up quite a bit and there are other factors that trigger AMT, such as high state tax. Since you paid back taxes in 2017 that may have triggered it.&nbsp; You could try using the <A title="IRS AMT Assistant" href="https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/alternative-minimum-tax-assistant-for-individuals" target="_blank">IRS AMT Assistant</A> to double-check the information.</P> Mon, 16 Apr 2018 01:38:54 GMT https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-paid-state-taxes-from-previous-years-in-2017/01/2950#M1891 LindaA 2018-04-16T01:38:54Z
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<P>State taxes are deductible only if you itemize deductions (<A title="What is Schedule A?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901553-what-is-schedule-a" target="_blank">Schedule A</A>).&nbsp;Since they didn't make a difference, perhaps you&nbsp;either claimed the <A title="What's my standard deduction?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901553-what-is-schedule-a" target="_blank">standard deduction</A>&nbsp;or your tax liability was already zero before you entered the state tax payments.</P>
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<P>I double checked and my deductions are itemized.&nbsp; There is a Schedule A form and that same total is listen on my 1040 and my tax liability is not 0.&nbsp; Still a little confused as to why that had no impact on my Fed Tax refund.&nbsp; Did I input it in the wrong place?</P>
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<P>I just went through it again.&nbsp; The amount is entered correctly&nbsp;on line 7 of the state and local tax deduction worksheet.&nbsp; That total from line 22 of the state and local tax deduction worksheet is correct on line 5 of my schedule A .&nbsp; If I change the $2300 to $1 and let turbotax recalculate my federal return of $65 doesn't change at all. &nbsp;</P>
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<P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>Can you preview your 1040&nbsp; and take a looks at lines 40 - 44 for both of those amounts (first for $2,300 and then for $1)?&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
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<P>lines 40, 41 and 45 changed by that amount.&nbsp; it was 2390 total and changed by 2389 when I changed it to $1.&nbsp; line 42 did not change, line 44 changed by $667.&nbsp; My total fed tax was $48,157 married filing jointly.</P>
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<P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>Just to verify, you have an amount on line&nbsp;45 (alternative minimum tax) and your tax on line&nbsp;63 is $48,517?&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Yes I do have an amount on line 45 - $375 AMT.&nbsp; Not sure what that is, I have never looked at that before.&nbsp; And yes the amount on line 63 is $48,157. &nbsp; BTW - thank you for all your help!</P>
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<P><LI-USER uid="5857"></LI-USER>I'm happy to help. It seems the alternative minimum tax (AMT) applies to you this year, hence you're not seeing an increase in your refund. For more information, please see the following FAQs:</P> <P><A title="What is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899184-what-is-the-alternative-minimum-tax-amt" target="_blank">What is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)?</A></P> <P><A title="Why am I getting hit with the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax)?" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/3266532-why-am-i-getting-hit-with-the-amt-alternative-minimum-tax" target="_blank">Why am I getting hit with the AMT?</A></P>
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<P>Thanks Linda.&nbsp; I have one last question.&nbsp; I went back over the last 3 years and haven't had an AMT.&nbsp; We did have an increase in AGI of about $50,000.&nbsp; When I first was reading about deducting state taxes paid for previous years an article stated that it should be place in "<SPAN>miscellaneous deductions</SPAN>".&nbsp; So I first placed the $2300 there.&nbsp; Until I later figured out that was the wrong place to put it.&nbsp; After reading the links you shared it does say high <SPAN>miscellaneous deductions</SPAN> is a trigger for AMT.&nbsp; Could I have accidently triggered that myself by initially placing the $2300 in miscellaneous deductions?&nbsp; Is there a way to back out that trigger on turbotax or could I start all over(start a new tax return) and see if&nbsp;doing that still triggers the AMT?&nbsp; Or am I just barking up the wrong tree?</P>
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