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When should a church organization file an income tax return?

apstndp — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:44:51 GMT

Generally, churches do not have to file tax returns. How...

Opus 17 — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:44:52 GMT

Generally, churches do not have to file tax returns. However, a church will have to file a return and may owe income tax if it has "unrelated business income."

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-religious-organizations

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/churches-religious-organizations/filing-requirements

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/annual-exempt-organization-return-who-must-file

Thank you Opus 17. Now, what will be considered "unrelate...

apstndp — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:44:56 GMT

Thank you Opus 17. Now, what will be considered "unrelated business income"? Anything not related to ties and offerings I guess right.

It's actually quite difficult to define. Unrelated busin...

Opus 17 — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:44:58 GMT

It's actually quite difficult to define.  Unrelated business income is income that is not related to the core business of ministry.  Suppose you rent space in the church building to a zumba trainer to have classes.  That's probably unrelated business income.  But suppose you rent to AA; that's arguably a ministry, so not taxable.

Or suppose the pastor has his own house and you rent the parsonage—the rental income is probably unrelated business income, unless you are renting to a pastor from another church that does not have its own parsonage.

Or you have a web site where you sell CDs and podcasts of sermons, no problem.  You also sell t-shirts with religious slogans but which do not specifically reference your church; could be taxable.

You operate a homeless shelter and collect money from the city/county to offset costs, probably ok.  You run a youth hostel for tourists visiting your city and use the money to fund other ministries, probably UBI.

And of course, just because you have unrelated business income that must be reported, you might not owe tax if you have offsetting expenses.

<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/unrelated-business-income-tax">https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/unrelated-business-income-tax</a>

<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.umc.org/gcfa/tax-packet">http://www.umc.org/gcfa/tax-packet</a>

If your church is a member of ECFA they are a good source, or you can buy a personal membership (I think) <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ecfa.org">http://www.ecfa.org</a>

Thanks Opus 17

apstndp — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:45:00 GMT

Thanks Opus 17

Here's the real rub, though - If a church received Unrel...

ScruffyCurmudgeon — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:45:02 GMT

Here's the real rub, though - If a church received Unrelated Business Taxable Income UBTI - the church does not file a normal income tax return, such as a 1065 or 1120, but instead must file a variant of the Form 990, specifically Form 990-T.

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apstndp — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:45:03 GMT

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Example of UBTI - a church or other non-profit invests in...

ScruffyCurmudgeon — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:45:06 GMT

Example of UBTI - a church or other non-profit invests in a non-profit commingled managed fund. The fund's portfolio one year just happens to invest in some variant of real estate development or the like [as opposed to dividend, interest, and traditional gain securities]. That year, the fund will pour out to the fund participants UBTI