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    <title>topic Re: IRS 2026 HCE avoidance (working for small company) in Get your taxes done using TurboTax</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Trying to avoid IRS labeling me an HCE again like in 2024 (last year was restricted from contributing to my ROTH 401K)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I asked my company and they did not have a clue, likely because they let Fidelity manages the 401K.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is shown below is the top part of my W-2 form (replaced actual $ amounts with ####.##)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Followed by my last paycheck stub for 2025, I know the total needs to stay below $160k, worked less hours last year to avoid HCE for this year, but left a lot of money on the table, so want to calculate my salary for this year more accurately.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AI states how to add this up (I only believe AI 70% of the time, I see errors here added as underlined)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Start with Gross Salary (&lt;STRONG&gt;W-2 Box 1&lt;/STRONG&gt;:(&lt;/img&gt; Take your 2025 W-2 taxable wages.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Add back 401(k) contributions: Add back any money you contributed to a 401(k) (as this is included in HCE definitions). &lt;U&gt;Not quite correct, you only add back in the &lt;STRONG&gt;Pre-tax&lt;/STRONG&gt; (BEFORE TAX DEDDUCTIONS)&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Add back pre-tax benefits: Add back salary reductions for medical, dental, or FSA (Cafeteria Plan contributions). &lt;U&gt;Again, only add back in &lt;STRONG&gt;Pre-tax&lt;/STRONG&gt; (BEFORE TAX DEDDUCTIONS&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Exclude Company Match: Do not include any 401(k) match or profit-sharing contributions made by your employer. (these are labeled as “&lt;STRONG&gt;EMPLOYER PAID BENEFITS BELOW&lt;/STRONG&gt;”, I think?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. Result: If this total exceeds $160,000 (for 2025 look-back to 2026 HCE status), you are an HCE.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Two questions below&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;1.) My HCE being &amp;lt;$160k is these two numbers added together? (green)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;2.) Not the same amount due to my 401k pretax contribution? (red):&lt;BR /&gt;Sorry for having to split the image up to post it here.......&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 334px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54122i59C7E473F0231B7D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 306px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54123i020BCFD324386EBB/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 398px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54124iDD8D6E79964F9D42/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 01:00:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>howjltx</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-03-07T01:00:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>IRS 2026 HCE avoidance (working for small company)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3817067#M1419853</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I was cursed last year with the HCE designation from the &amp;gt;$155K (income in 2024) working for a small company and going thru hades to figure out how to avoid this again for next year. So far, looks like I got lucky in 2025 by reducing my hours down to 30-39hrs week but reading about this could change to my disadvantage at any time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This year I need to avoid the $160K HCE limit (last year’s 2025 Box 12 code D was $8657.37 &amp;amp; likely will be my company matched funds of pre-tax dollars for 2026), my question is how much can I earn this year if I know ~$9k will be my company matched funds of pre-tax dollars for 2026? Is it my total salary? (note: nothing will go to 401k as a tax write off, although I do have my entire income going straight into ROTH up to this year’s maximum $80K limit).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One last note, this year I will strategically continue to convert my IRA to ROTH (cIRA2Roth) at 24%-37% MFJ taxes, as well as next year (but likely keep it below ~$200k to avoid IRMA 2+ years from then) which results in me not only avoiding RMD, but keeps me in 0% LTCG if I can keep that amount below $20K a year)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My moto is "He who dies paying Uncle Sam the least tax percentage, WINS!"&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 23:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>howjltx</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-04T23:50:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: IRS 2026 HCE avoidance (working for small company)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3821171#M1421182</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Trying to avoid IRS labeling me an HCE again like in 2024 (last year was restricted from contributing to my ROTH 401K)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I asked my company and they did not have a clue, likely because they let Fidelity manages the 401K.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is shown below is the top part of my W-2 form (replaced actual $ amounts with ####.##)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Followed by my last paycheck stub for 2025, I know the total needs to stay below $160k, worked less hours last year to avoid HCE for this year, but left a lot of money on the table, so want to calculate my salary for this year more accurately.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AI states how to add this up (I only believe AI 70% of the time, I see errors here added as underlined)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Start with Gross Salary (&lt;STRONG&gt;W-2 Box 1&lt;/STRONG&gt;:(&lt;/img&gt; Take your 2025 W-2 taxable wages.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Add back 401(k) contributions: Add back any money you contributed to a 401(k) (as this is included in HCE definitions). &lt;U&gt;Not quite correct, you only add back in the &lt;STRONG&gt;Pre-tax&lt;/STRONG&gt; (BEFORE TAX DEDDUCTIONS)&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Add back pre-tax benefits: Add back salary reductions for medical, dental, or FSA (Cafeteria Plan contributions). &lt;U&gt;Again, only add back in &lt;STRONG&gt;Pre-tax&lt;/STRONG&gt; (BEFORE TAX DEDDUCTIONS&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Exclude Company Match: Do not include any 401(k) match or profit-sharing contributions made by your employer. (these are labeled as “&lt;STRONG&gt;EMPLOYER PAID BENEFITS BELOW&lt;/STRONG&gt;”, I think?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. Result: If this total exceeds $160,000 (for 2025 look-back to 2026 HCE status), you are an HCE.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Two questions below&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;1.) My HCE being &amp;lt;$160k is these two numbers added together? (green)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;2.) Not the same amount due to my 401k pretax contribution? (red):&lt;BR /&gt;Sorry for having to split the image up to post it here.......&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 334px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54122i59C7E473F0231B7D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 306px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54123i020BCFD324386EBB/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 398px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54124iDD8D6E79964F9D42/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 01:00:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3821171#M1421182</guid>
      <dc:creator>howjltx</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-07T01:00:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: IRS 2026 HCE avoidance (working for small company)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3821180#M1421184</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;left off last image:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 174px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/54127i61E78C7CEA56A994/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 01:05:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3821180#M1421184</guid>
      <dc:creator>howjltx</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-07T01:05:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: IRS 2026 HCE avoidance (working for small company)</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3831158#M1424684</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;On your W2 you should have an amount in box 1 that is smaller than the amount in box 3 and 5. &amp;nbsp;Box 3 and 5 is your social security and medicare taxable wages which is your salary plus the deductible contributions and expenses. &amp;nbsp;The amount in box 3 and 5 should be the amount that you're looking for to determine if you are a Highly Compensated Employee.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In addition, you should check with your employer to see how they define an HCE - there are differences between employers as to how this may be done.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/180917"&gt;@howjltx&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[Edited 03/16/26&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;11:30 AM PST]&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:31:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-irs-2026-hce-avoidance-working-for-small-company/01/3831158#M1424684</guid>
      <dc:creator>RobertB4444</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-16T18:31:14Z</dc:date>
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