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    <title>topic Rental Expenses decrease my federal refund? in Get your taxes done using TurboTax</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;We have a rental that we had to renovate after the tenant moved out without notice. We collected 10 months of rent and had a lot of expenses to get it in good order. I have all of the expenses categorized, organized, and totaled, and when I put them in Turbo tax I noticed that my Federal Refund went down every time I put in the next category.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At the very end it said that I did not get credit for all of the expenses because the rent was below median market rent for the county. I went back through and removed all of the expenses, and my refund went up by almost $300. I have never had this happen before. Yes, we had 2 fewer months of rent, and it was a little below market rent because we had the same tenant for many years. However, when I expense nothing of the renovations, I have a higher refund?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 03:29:45 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ajmomof4</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-11T03:29:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Rental Expenses decrease my federal refund?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/rental-expenses-decrease-my-federal-refund/01/3191667#M1173584</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We have a rental that we had to renovate after the tenant moved out without notice. We collected 10 months of rent and had a lot of expenses to get it in good order. I have all of the expenses categorized, organized, and totaled, and when I put them in Turbo tax I noticed that my Federal Refund went down every time I put in the next category.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At the very end it said that I did not get credit for all of the expenses because the rent was below median market rent for the county. I went back through and removed all of the expenses, and my refund went up by almost $300. I have never had this happen before. Yes, we had 2 fewer months of rent, and it was a little below market rent because we had the same tenant for many years. However, when I expense nothing of the renovations, I have a higher refund?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 03:29:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ajmomof4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-11T03:29:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Expenses decrease my federal refund?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-rental-expenses-decrease-my-federal-refund/01/3193639#M1174328</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You may be entitled to an earned income credit. That can go up when your income increases and if it is more than the tax on the additional income, your refund can increase as you mention. You can look on line 27 of your form 1040 to see if you have an earned income credit.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2024 23:51:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ThomasM125</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-15T23:51:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Expenses decrease my federal refund?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-rental-expenses-decrease-my-federal-refund/01/3203600#M1178143</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your response, but we don't qualify for EIC. This is for an investment rental property that had a tenant only part of the year, and we had to spend a significant amount of money to repair the property after he left. Why does itemizing my repair expenses cause my Federal refund to go down?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:01:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ajmomof4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-02-19T23:01:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Rental Expenses decrease my federal refund?</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-rental-expenses-decrease-my-federal-refund/01/3203644#M1178153</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;It can be normal for the refund to go down. &amp;nbsp;First, you are carrying the depreciation before you put anything else in, then you enter the income and all the expenses which can cause a reduced refund. &amp;nbsp;$300 doesn't seem unreasonable.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;When you go through the Property Profile or Rental Property Info there is a question about renting at fair rental price - you must answer Yes. &amp;nbsp;Do not consider the months the property was not rented.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;If you had significant amounts of money used to improve the property, I would ask if it was a capital improvement or simply repairs. &amp;nbsp;A capital improvement would be new siding, a new roof, structural changes that have a long life. &amp;nbsp;If so, this may need to be listed as an asset and depreciated the same as the rental home itself. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;There is a &lt;STRONG&gt;Deminimis Safe Harbor&lt;/STRONG&gt; that you might qualify for if it was a capital improvement. &amp;nbsp;I will provide the details but it's not likely this will change your results if you listed everything as a repair.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;U&gt;Improvements Election&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;This election is an option you can take each year that lets you write off some&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;building improvements&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;as expenses instead of assets.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;Here are the rules you need to meet to take this election:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;Your&amp;nbsp;gross receipts, including all your other income, are $10,000,000 or less.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;Your&amp;nbsp;eligible building&amp;nbsp;has an&amp;nbsp;unadjusted basis&amp;nbsp;of $1,000,000 or less.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;The cost of all repairs, maintenance and improvements is less than or equal to the smallest of these limits:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;2% of the unadjusted basis of your building or&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;$10,000&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"&gt;This election for building improvements is called the&amp;nbsp;&lt;I&gt;Safe Harbor Election for Small Taxpayers&lt;/I&gt;. 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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 23:26:02 GMT</pubDate>
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