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    <title>topic Return is lower when filing jointly with spouse in Get your taxes done using TurboTax</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This is my first time filing taxes with my spouse jointly. However, I noticed that the return went down by about 70% as soon as I included my spouse’s income. Is that ok? Our joint incomes are still well below $200k a year. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I have always heard filing jointly will be best but in my case is affecting the return by a big amount.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Is it better to file separately?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 03:53:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>payam</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-24T03:53:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Return is lower when filing jointly with spouse</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2925489#M1067873</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This is my first time filing taxes with my spouse jointly. However, I noticed that the return went down by about 70% as soon as I included my spouse’s income. Is that ok? Our joint incomes are still well below $200k a year. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I have always heard filing jointly will be best but in my case is affecting the return by a big amount.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Is it better to file separately?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 03:53:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>payam</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-24T03:53:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Return is lower when filing jointly with spouse</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2925499#M1067878</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Did you get married in 2022 or did you file Married filing Separate last year? &amp;nbsp;Joint is usually better than 2 MFS returns.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Here's some things to consider about filing separately……&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;In the first place you each have to file a separate return, so that's two returns.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And if you are using the Online version that means using 2 accounts and paying the fees twice.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Many people think they come out better when filing Married Filing Separate but they are probably doing it wrong.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If one person itemizes deductions on Schedule A then the other one must itemize too, even if it's less than the standard deduction, even if it is ZERO!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And if you are in a Community Property state it can be complicated to figure out.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;And there are several credits you can't take when filing separately, like the&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;EITC Earned Income Tax Credit&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Child Care Credit&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Educational Deductions and Credits&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;And contributions to IRA and ROTH IRA are limited when you file MFS.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Also if you file Married Filing Separately up to 85`% of your Social Security becomes taxable right away even with zero other income.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;See …….&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/married/help/is-it-better-for-a-married-couple-to-file-jointly-or-separately/00/25590" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/married/help/is-it-better-for-a-married-couple-to-file-jointly-or-separately/00/25590&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;To compare Joint to MFS.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If you are using the Online version, do NOT change anything on your return.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You would have to start with a new account and do a test return.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You don't have to pay unless you want to print it out.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So you might need 3 accounts, one for Joint and two MFS, one for each spouse.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;How to Compare Joint to Married Filing Separately &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/married/help/how-can-we-compare-married-filing-jointly-with-married-filing-separately/00/26551" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/married/help/how-can-we-compare-married-filing-jointly-with-married-filing-separately/00/26551&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;How to start another return in the Online version&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/using-turbotax/help/how-do-i-start-another-return-in-turbotax-online/00/25596" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/using-turbotax/help/how-do-i-start-another-return-in-turbotax-online/00/25596&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2023 23:03:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2925499#M1067878</guid>
      <dc:creator>VolvoGirl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-02T23:03:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Return is lower when filing jointly with spouse</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2925659#M1067943</link>
      <description>&lt;P class="p1"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;WHY DID MY REFUND GO DOWN WHEN I ADDED ANOTHER W-2?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="p2"&gt;You started off with your first W-2 and your refund looked high?&lt;SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Then you added another W-2 and it stopped looking so good? That is normal.&lt;SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;When you added more income, your tax liability increased, so you saw your refund decrease. &amp;nbsp;The program began by giving you your standard deduction—- which lowered your taxable income.&lt;SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;(if you are filing joint it took $25,900 off &lt;SPAN class="s1"&gt;your&lt;/SPAN&gt; income right off the bat) &lt;SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;So you are not being taxed on as much of the income on that first W-2.&lt;SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Then you &lt;STRONG&gt;added taxable income&lt;/STRONG&gt;--so the refund went down. Your refund (or tax due) is based on the total of your income, not “per W-2.” &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="p2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="p2"&gt;And…adding income may affect other credits you were getting like the earned income credit.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="p2"&gt;Wait until you have entered ALL of your income and credit/deduction information. &amp;nbsp;You can't really tell anything until it is all entered.&lt;SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;That “refund monitor” does not mean anything until everything has been entered&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="p3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="p2"&gt;&lt;A href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2273878-why-did-my-refund-drop-when-i-entered-another-w-2" target="_blank"&gt;https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2273878-why-did-my-refund-drop-when-i-entered-another-w-2&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 00:14:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2925659#M1067943</guid>
      <dc:creator>xmasbaby0</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-03T00:14:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Return is lower when filing jointly with spouse</title>
      <link>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2926433#M1068218</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you. This "What-if worksheet" is very useful. It turns out my spouse even owes taxes so that is why!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 14:17:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxes/discussion/re-return-is-lower-when-filing-jointly-with-spouse/01/2926433#M1068218</guid>
      <dc:creator>payam</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-03T14:17:49Z</dc:date>
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