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mrthom74
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what happened to no tax on social security?

per President--------- trump?
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maglib
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what happened to no tax on social security?

@mrthom74 You must be a top 12% of seniors income earners if you are not seeing no tax on social security.  For tax years 2025–2028, most seniors (65+) pay no federal tax on Social Security due to a new $6,000/$12,000 deduction, provided income is below $75,000 single/$150,000 joint. While not fully eliminated for all, this deduction significantly reduces tax liability, aiming to exempt 88% of seniors.  

Review FORM 8582 to see the calculations TT did for you.

The vast majority will have no tax on their social security,  which once again is not a benefit to the richest.

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BillM223
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what happened to no tax on social security?

The tax on Social Security was not eliminated per statute; instead, it was reduced for many taxpayers by the introduction of a new deduction.

 

The previous paradigm of paying tax on up to 85% of Social Security still exists. Only taxpayers who are on the edge of Social Security tax thresholds will go from paying some tax on Social Security to no tax.

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what happened to no tax on social security?

"No tax on Social Security" is not the reality of the tax law changes, although Donald Trump is still trying to claim that it is.   Instead, there is a "senior deduction" in effect that increases the standard deduction for people who are 65 or older for the next several years.  The senior deduction is unrelated to whether you are receiving Social Security.

 

The “senior deduction” is added automatically by the software based on the date of birth and filing status you entered into MY INFO.  You do not need to take any extra steps to enter it. (And…the new senior deduction has nothing to do with whether you are getting Social Security)

 

The deduction is not on the same line as your standard deduction.  It is shown separately on line 13b.

 

 

2025 STANDARD DEDUCTION AMOUNTS

SINGLE $15,750  (65 or older/legally blind + $2000)

MARRIED FILING SEPARATELY $15,750  (65 or older/legally blind +1600)

MARRIED FILING JOINTLY $31,500  (65 or older/legally blind + $1600)

HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD $23,625 (65 or older/legally blind + $2000)

 

 

For 2025 through 2028 there is an extra  deduction amount of up to $6000 per individual 65 or older filing Single, MFJ, or HOH which is phased out for taxpayers with modified adjusted gross income over $75,000 for single filers and $150,000 for joint filers.

 

(The deduction phases out completely at $175.000 Single or HOH, or $250,000 joint)

 

The $6,000 senior deduction will be calculated on 1040 Schedule 1-A page 2 Part V Enhanced Deduction for Seniors which goes to 1040 line 13b. It is separate and in addition to the Standard Deduction or your Itemized Deductions on 1040 line 12e.  Turbo Tax automatically includes it.

IRS Schedule 1-A
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f1040s1a--dft.pdf

 

Need to see it?

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/tax-return/preview-turbotax-online-retur...

 

If you are not getting the senior deduction it is because

Your date of birth in MY INFO shows that you were not 65 by the end of 2025

Your income is too high

You are filing married filing separately

 

 

 

TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY

Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits can be taxable on your federal tax return.  There is no age limit for having to pay taxes on Social Security benefits if you have other sources of income along with the SS benefits.  When you have other income such as earnings from continuing to work, investment income, pensions, etc. up to 85% of your SS can be taxable. 

 

 What confuses people about this is that before you reach full retirement age, if you continue working while drawing SS, your benefits can be reduced if you earn over a certain limit. (For 2021 it was  $18,960.  For 2022 it was  $19,560  —  for 2023 $21,240)  For 2024, $22,320.  For 2025 it will be $23,400; 2026   $24,480

 

After full retirement age, no matter how much you continue to earn, your benefits are not reduced by your earnings; your employer will still have to withhold for Social Security and Medicare.  If you work as an independent contractor then you will pay self-employment tax for Social Security and Medicare.

 

To see how much of your Social Security was taxable, look at lines 6a and 6b of your 2025 Form 1040

 

https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/are-my-social-security-or-railroad-retirement-tier-i-benefits-taxable

 

You need to file a federal return if half your Social Security plus your other income is

 

Single or Head of Household      $25,000

Married Filing Jointly                  $32,000

Married Filing Separately            $0

 

Some additional information:  There are 9 states that tax Social Security—Colorado, Connecticut,, Minnesota, Montana, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont  and West Virginia These states offer varying degrees of income exemptions, but two mirror the federal tax schedule: MN and VT.

 

 

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

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