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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Everyone, the Foreign Country question started in 2024.  Was your 2024 returns ok?

 

This is a big reason for not entering using the Forms Mode in the Desktop program. If you enter your info directly into the forms you might miss a critical checkbox like this one. After you enter into forms you should go to the step-by-step interview and go though the rest of the questions. Especially if you have Social Security or 1099R income.  See screen shot attached.


Go back to the beginning of this thread on page 1 and read all the posts. Several users have said they missed the foreign country question. Like the original poster who said
"Turbo Tax was saying that I owed zero tax on my social security. I ran the figures on the IRS worksheet and it showed I owed tax. I reviewed all the questions in Turbo Tax and the problem was that I had check 'yes' to the foreign residency question. Once I fixed that everything was fine."

 

After you enter your SS in the interview questions the next screen is a big page to answer if you  lived in a Foreign Country.  You have to check NO on that screen and for each spouse if married.

 

SS Foreign JT.jpg

 

In Forms Mode check the top of the worksheet

 

SS Foreign25.jpg

 

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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

What makes you think it is not calculating correctly?

 

Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits can be taxable on your federal tax return.  There is no age limit for having to pay taxes on Social Security benefits if you have other sources of income along with the SS benefits.  When you have other income such as earnings from continuing to work, investment income, pensions, etc. up to 85% of your SS can be taxable. 

 

 What confuses people about this is that before you reach full retirement age, if you continue working while drawing SS, your benefits can be reduced if you earn over a certain limit. (For 2021 it was  $18,960.  For 2022 it was  $19,560  —  for 2023 $21,240)  For 2024, $22,320.  For 2025 it will be $23,400; 2026   $24,480

 

After full retirement age, no matter how much you continue to earn, your benefits are not reduced by your earnings; your employer will still have to withhold for Social Security and Medicare.  If you work as an independent contractor then you will pay self-employment tax for Social Security and Medicare.

 

To see how much of your Social Security was taxable, look at lines 6a and 6b of your 2025 Form 1040

 

https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/are-my-social-security-or-railroad-retirement-tier-i-benefits-taxable

 

You need to file a federal return if half your Social Security plus your other income is

 

Single or Head of Household      $25,000

Married Filing Jointly                  $32,000

Married Filing Separately            $0

 

Some additional information:  There are 9 states that tax Social Security—Colorado, Connecticut,, Minnesota, Montana, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont  and West Virginia These states offer varying degrees of income exemptions, but two mirror the federal tax schedule: MN and VT.

 

 

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

 Are you confused by the new "senior deduction?"   Were you expecting that to affect your SS?  That new deduction has nothing to do with your SS. 

 

The “senior deduction” is added automatically by the software based on the date of birth and filing status you entered into MY INFO.  You do not need to take any extra steps to enter it. (And…the new senior deduction has nothing to do with whether you are getting Social Security)

 

 

2025 STANDARD DEDUCTION AMOUNTS

SINGLE $15,750  (65 or older/legally blind + $2000)

MARRIED FILING SEPARATELY $15,750  (65 or older/legally blind +1600)

MARRIED FILING JOINTLY $31,500  (65 or older/legally blind + $1600)

HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD $23,625 (65 or older/legally blind + $2000)

 

 

For 2025 through 2028 there is an extra  deduction amount of up to $6000 per individual 65 or older filing Single, MFJ, or HOH which is phased out for taxpayers with modified adjusted gross income over $75,000 for single filers and $150,000 for joint filers.

 

(The deduction phases out completely at $175.000 Single or HOH, or $250,000 joint)

 

The $6,000 senior deduction will be calculated on 1040 Schedule 1-A page 2 Part V Enhanced Deduction for Seniors which goes to 1040 line 13b. It is separate and in addition to the Standard Deduction or your Itemized Deductions on 1040 line 12e.  Turbo Tax automatically includes it.

IRS Schedule 1-A
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f1040s1a--dft.pdf

 

@dlboscana

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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

@dlboscana  Probably this confusion……

On a Joint return the additional $6,000 deduction for each spouse is gradually phased out if MAGI is over $150,000 to a max of $250,000.

 

This is  a common misunderstanding.  If you are both over 65  and in the phaseout amount,  the 6% reduction is subtracted from EACH spouse's 6,000 effectively making it 12%.

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Turbo Tax was saying that I owed zero tax on my social security.  I ran the figures on the IRS worksheet and it showed I owed tax.  I reviewed all the questions in Turbo Tax and the problem was that I had check 'yes' to the foreign residency question.  Once I fixed that everything was fine.

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Thanks for posting back.   Was this on your 2024 return?  Yes that was a common problem last year.  

dchawkin
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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

It appears the desktop version of turbotax is not calculating social security taxable amount.  When i go to the worksheet for social security, it is not completed at all, and line 6b on form 1040 has zero for taxable amount.  My AGI is well over the threshold, last year i had to pay taxes on 85%.  Is this a glitch in the program.  What am i suppose to do, fill out the worksheet myself the right way.  Sorda, sad I have to catch this, and do this worksheet manually.  Not able to find if others are having this exact problem.  Help me if you can to understand what i should do.  This is taking longer to resolve than doing my taxes as a whole. 

 

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Go back through the Social Security entries.  After you enter the SSA-1099 there is a screen that asks if you lived in a foreign country.   Say No.   There’s probably a screen for each spouse if married.   

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Look for a screen like this

 

SS Foreign.PNG

SharonD007
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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Review your entries to ensure that you didn't accidently select the box that you are a US Citizen who lives abroad, and lives in one of the countries where SS is tax exempt. 

 

To review your entries:

  1. Go to Wages & Income
  2. Go to the Social Security benefits screen 

 

Refer to the TurboTax article Where do I enter an SSA-1099 for more information.

 

 

 

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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

It is not calculating it at all for me! And I know that part is taxable due to my income!

 

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

@minike Did you read the other posts in this thread?   The screen after the entry screen for your SSA1099 asks you if you lived in certain foreign countries in 2025.    If you skip past that screen without answering or answer incorrectly, your SS is not taxed correctly.

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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Check to make sure you answered the "foreign" income questions correctly.  That was my issue.

 

It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

Thank you. I usually work with "FORMS" and it did not ask that question! By saying that I lived in NY full year, I thought I answered my residence question. Obviously not.

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It appears that the online turbo tax is not calculating the social security taxable amount correctly for married filing jointly. How can I correct this?

There is a general problem with Turbo Tax handling of Social Security fields. Attempting to enter required info in selected step-by-step fields does not work. I suggest that you go to forms view and enter it manually. 

It was the only way I could get the data entered, then proceed (with no further issues).

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