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December 14, 2021
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Sale of a new house

  • December 14, 2021
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I demolished a fully depreciated rental unit and built and sold a new house. How do I report this?

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    M-MTax
    Level 15
    December 14, 2021

    No recapture or gain on the demolished building because you got nothing for it. Add the demo costs to the purchase price or construction costs of your new house and that's your basis. If the new house is a rental you have recapture on that. 

    Hal_Al
    Level 15
    Level 15
    December 15, 2021

    It may be best explained by example.  You bought the original house and lot for $50,000. Depreciated $25,000. You spent $100,000 demolishing the old house and building the new one. You sold it for $200,000.

     

    Your cost basis is $100,000 + $50,000 - $25,000 = $125,000.  You have a capital gain of $75,000 ($200,000 - $125,000 = $75,000), of which $25,000 is depreciation recapture (section 1250 gain). 

     

    In TurboTax (TT), I think it goes smoother if you report it as the sale of a business asset (Business items section of income), rather than reporting it in the rental income section.  You enter $150,000 cost basis and $25,000 depreciation claimed. 

     

    Edited per martinmarks comment

    ALTERNATE METHOD

    The depreciation recapture can be avoided.  Here's a revised example. Although the net capital gain calculation is the same ($75K), depreciation recapture (which is taxed at a higher rate than long term capital gains) is avoided.

     

    You bought the original house and lot for $50,000 and broke down the cost as $25,000 for land and $25,000 for building. You fully depreciated the building $25,000. You spent $100,000 demolishing the old house and building the new one. You sold it for $200,000.

     

    Your report the disposal of the original building as a sale for $0. $0 sale amount -$25K cost basis + $25k depreciation recapture = $0 capital gain.

     

    Your cost basis for the new building is $100,000 + $25,000 for land = $125,000.  You have a capital gain of $75,000 ($200,000 - $125,000 = $75,000).

     

    In TurboTax (TT), I think it goes smoother if you report it as the sales of  business assets (Business items section of income), rather than reporting it in the rental income section.  You enter the disposal of the original building as a separate asset (property) sale from the new building with land.

     

     

    M-MTax
    Level 15
    December 15, 2021

    Nope, NO RECAPTURE of depreciation taken on the demolished house!

    The house was demolished so it's value was $0.....it was not sold or disposed of.....it was demolished. 

    This isn't any different than if you bought a computer for your business and threw it away after it was fully depreciated.....basis is $0 but so is what you got for it which is also $0.

     

    Carl
    Level 11
    Level 11
    December 15, 2021

    While the explanations given are correct, they don't tell you how to deal with it in the TurboTax program. In order to give you those details, we need to know the following.

    1) Was the last occupant to vacate the old house a paying tenant?

    2) If yes to 1), when did they move out?

    3) When was the structure demolished?

    4) When was construction of the new structure completed?

    5) What is the status of the new structure? Is it a rental? Did you sell it? Did you move into it as your primary residence? When?

    M-MTax
    Level 15
    December 15, 2021

    While the explanations given are correct

    The explanation by HalAl is NOT correct.

    The example says depreciation needs to be recaptured on the house that was demolished and that's wrong. The demolished house is worth $0 after demolition...it was not sold or disposed of so the owner got $0 for it AND the depreciation deductions DON'T get added to the newly built house. 

    There is no recapture of the depreciation taken on the demolished house.

    Hal_Al
    Level 15
    Level 15
    December 15, 2021

    I think @M-MTax  is correct. The depreciation recapture can be avoided.  Here's a new example. Although the net capital gain calculation is the same ($75K), depreciation recapture is taxed at a higher rate than long term capital gains.

     

    It may be best explained by example.  You bought the original house and lot for $50,000 and broke down the cost as $25,000 for land and $25,000 for building. You fully depreciated the building $25,000. You spent $100,000 demolishing the old house and building the new one. You sold it for $200,000.

     

    Your report the disposal of the original building as a sale for $0. $0 sale amount -$25K cost basis + $25k depreciation recapture = $0 capital gain.

     

    Your cost basis for the new building is $100,000 + $25,000 for land = $125,000.  You have a capital gain of $75,000 ($200,000 - $125,000 = $75,000).

     

    In TurboTax (TT), I think it goes smoother if you report it as the sales of  business assets (Business items section of income), rather than reporting it in the rental income section.  You enter the disposal of the original building as a separate asset (property) sale from the new building with land.