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February 26, 2022
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In 2020 took both an expense and depreciation for a rental's waterheater. The depreciation became a disallowed 179 carryover. Should I still enter and never use?

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Mike9241
Level 15
Level 15
February 26, 2022

what do you mean you took both an expense and depreciation deduction for the same water heater?  sounds like you double-dipped - deducted the same item twice which is not allowed.

if you expensed the water heater and never got the depreciation deduction for it, delete it. from the asset section.

 

Mike9241
Carl
Level 11
Level 11
February 26, 2022

In 2020 took both an expense and depreciation for a rental's waterheater.

That's double-dipping and a definite no-no. You either expense it *or* depreciate it. You can't do both. Since you expensed it on your 2020 tax return, you need to delete the asset entirely on your 2021 return.

Next, check your 2020 tax return. If you were allowed any depreciation on the asset in any way, shape, form or fashion (27.5 year, SEC179 or SDA), you need to amend and recapture that depreciation (I seriously doubt it will make any difference on your tax liability for 2020 though) and remove the water heater entirely from the assets/depreciation section.

 

Take note that a water heater is in that "grey area" too. While others may (and most certainly can) disagree with me, I view it like this:

The water heater becomes "a physical part of" the plumbing when installed, which is already "a physical part of" the structure. Therefore it gets classified as residential rental real estate and depreciated over 27.5 years. With that classification it's flat out not eligible for SEC179 or the Special Depreciation Allowance (SDA).

Now in my area the cost of a new water heater including installation is between $800-$900 and depreciating that over 27.5 years, you're only talking $30-35 a year. Doesn't change your tax liability by a single penny. So I'd just expense it in the year of purchase/installation under Safe Harbor di-minimis and be done with it. (Sounds to me like that's what you did, too)

 

 

 

Level 15
February 26, 2022

@Carl11_2 wrote:

....it gets classified as residential rental real estate and depreciated over 27.5 years. With that classification it's flat out not eligible for SEC179 or the Special Depreciation Allowance (SDA).


It is still eligible for the de minimis safe harbor election if the cost does not exceed the $2,500 threshold (not sure what the SDA has to do with this scenario).

Carl
Level 11
Level 11
February 26, 2022

It is still eligible for the de minimis safe harbor election if the cost does not exceed the $2,500 threshold

I forgot to mention that cost threshold is all. Thanks for clarifying that. From what I understand, it was expensed in 2020, which is fine. But if it was also depreciated, then that's a no-no and it needs to be removed from the assets/depreciation section.

If they did "in fact" take the SEC179 depreciation on the 2020 return, then that needs to be amended to remove the asset and recapture all that depreciation. For that one item, there's really no need to start the 2021 over and re-import the amended 2020 return. They can just delete the asset from the 2021 return and press on.