For 2020 I did not rent my rental as I am making repairs. Will TT pick up where I left off in terms of carrying depreciation from 2019 into 2021?
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It depends. Did you convert the rental to personal use on your 2019 or 2020 tax return?
Did you file a SCH E on *both* your 2019 and 2020 tax return? It doesn't matter if you reported zero income on the 2020 return either. Did you report your rental income/expenses on SCH E on your 2020 tax return?
If you *did* file a SCH E with your 2020 tax return and you did *NOT* convert the property to personal use, then no problem.
It's also extremely doubtful that it took you an entire tax year to do "repairs". Sounds more like you may have done property improvements. There *is* a difference, and property improvements are treated differently from repairs on your tax return. The below should clarify this.
RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED
Property Improvement.
Property improvements are expenses you incur that “better” the property. Basically, they retain or add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.
To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:
1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.
2) The improvement must retain or add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.
There are rules that allow you to just flat-out expense and deduct some property improvements, if the total cost of the improvement was less than $2,500. It’s referred to as “safe harbor di-minimis” But depending on the specific situation, this may or may not be beneficial. Just be aware that not every property improvement that cost less than $2,500 qualifies for this. If this interest you, the rules can get complex. So a good place to start reading is on the IRS website at https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations. The stuff on di-minimis starts about one page down.
Cleaning & Maintenance
Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.
Repair
Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.
Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.
However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a 2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.
on my 2020 tax return, i took the unit out of service as of 1/1/2020. (as a side note, interesting that TT created Sced E for filing for a small amount of depreciation and a significantly greater amount for Unrealized Refinancing Fees 2013 Refinancing Fees) I sold the unit in March 2021. I assume I should indicate that I sold it as a second home instead of sold it as a rental property?
I assume I should indicate that I sold it as a second home instead of sold it as a rental property?
Your assumption may not be correct.
If you did not live in the unit for one single day after converting it to personal use, as your primary residence, second home, vacation home or any other type of "personal pleasure" use, then you'll report the sale in the "sale of business property" section.
how do i complete the next TT page?
for 2020, i filed a Sched E form but it had very minimal amount on it. in TT i stated that I converted rental to personal use BUT I did not live in it one day in 2020. i subsequently sold unit in 2021. just to confirm, you are suggesting that for 2021 that i report the sale in the "sale of business property" section?
you are suggesting that for 2021 that i report the sale in the "sale of business property" section?
Actually, it's not a suggestion. Since you did not have any actual personal use (as I understand it) for one single day after you converted it to personal use on your 2020 tax return, the correct place to report this sale is in the "Sale of Business Property" section.
I received this in a separate post...
Here is an answer from Champ Carl that is about your situation. He is advising to leave it as a rental to make recording the sale easier. If the house is still listed as a rental, that may be the easiest way to account for the sale and handle the depreciation for the house and other depreciating improvements. The dates in his answer are not current, but the information has not changed.
"Yes, you can convert the property to personal use if desired. But then when you sell the property you can "NOT" report the sale in the Rental & Royalty Income (SCH E) section of the program. You have to report it in the Sale of Business Property section. But this is going around your elbow to get to your thumb, as it's much more prone to user error. If you did not live in the house for one single day as your primary residence, 2nd home, or use it as a vacation home for one single day after the last renter moved out, there's no need to convert the property to personal use, and makes no sense to do so if there was "in fact" no personal use of the property in 2018. Just leave it classified as residential rental real estate. That's the easiest, simplest way to do this and not have to deal with all the *manual* math you will be "required" to do on your own for things such as depreciation recapture and utility expenses.
Just report the number of days rented in 2018 as 1 (one) day. (The program will not accept zero days). Then your rental income will be zero for 2018.
For expenses, you can fully and completely deduct all rental-related expenses such as utility bills (electric, water, etc.) and repairs. Then for those things that qualify as property improvements, you'll add them to the assets section with 0% business use. (I think the program won't accept zero percent business use, so just make it 0.1% business use. The depreciation will be minimal if not zero). Then you can report the sale in the rental section and the program will do all the math *for you*".
did i screw up in 2020 by converting it to personal use even though i did not live in it one day? If i did screw up should/can i amend 2020 return and not convert it to personal use? would i be better off in my 2021 return?
@gigogol By converting it to personal use you lost the ability to deduct any rental expenses for the year of the sale. If it is still listed as a rental property your deductions are better. You will have to make the decision as to whether you had enough deductions on the property to justify going back and amending the 2020 return before doing the 2021 return.
more details and questions...
- when i "took it out of service" on 1/1/2020, i indicated in TT that I converted this property from a rental to personal use in 2020 and thus in 2020 TT I input for each depreciable asset that 1/1/2020 was the date of sale or disposition (as guided by TT instructions). was that a mistake? i did NOT live in it at any time in 2020 (but made repairs and improvements during 2020). i was told in TT forum that i could not convert it to personal use if i did not live in it for at least one day. is this true? however, i was also told that i could not claim it as a rental if I did not attempt to rent it out during that time. is that true? i feel as though i am in a catch 22 situation.
- fast forward to today; i subsequently sold the property in March 2021 (most repairs and improvements made in 2020) and am now in a quandary as to how to report the sale, i.e. as a business property or as a rental? do i need to amend my 2020 return? i don't know which way is correct; i don't know my options and i don't know what is best financially (tax-wise).
@gigogol It sounds like you made a mistake last year. The rule is that it has to be available for rental if it can be - if you are in the process of remodeling it you can't rent it til you finish remodeling. So it's not a catch 22. You just have to understand where you're at. You should turn it back into a rental for 2020 and dispose of your rental property in 2021. That is an accurate representation of what occurred.
As far as the costs of the remodel you did in 2020 and 2021, you should not expense those as rental expenses in either year. As @Carl points out above your rental improvements would become another depreciable asset so in this case you will add the cost of the remodel to your basis for the house at the time of the sale.
@RobertB4444you stated, "It sounds like you made a mistake last year. The rule is that it has to be available for rental if it can be - if you are in the process of remodeling it you can't rent it til you finish remodeling. So it's not a catch 22. You just have to understand where you're at. You should turn it back into a rental for 2020 and dispose of your rental property in 2021." so it is still considered a rental even though i did not attempt to rent it in 2020? do i need to officially amend my 2020 return in order to turn it back into a rental?
It's not really necessary since you are reporting the sale in 2021. You can use Sale of Business Property as indicated by Tax Champ @Carl.
Follow the instructions provided below. You must find the depreciation used on the rental property from the time it was rented until you removed it from service (1/1/2020). The depreciation must be recaptured.
Be prepared with the sales price, sales expenses, cost, depreciation used, for each asset being sold.
Select Sale of Business Property...then select which of the following..
"Sales of business or rental property" OR "Sales of real estate, cars, or anything else..."
You should select 'Sale of business or rental property that you haven't already reported'. The continue to report your sales.
This is not a property for which you received payments in two or more tax years to the best of my knowledge. If that were the case, the other selection allows the reporting under the installment sale method. This only pertains if you received payment in more than one tax year,.
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