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Imeli
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Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

I paid a landscaper to do irrigation lines for $1900 on my rental property. He is refusing to give me a W9 or EIN. If I send him a 1099-NEC and write refused will that trigger and audit for me? 

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Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

unlikely to cause an audit. However, in the future, get the W-9 before you sign any contract or before work begins if there is no formal contract. If the IC is a corporation, no 1099 is issued. 

M-MTax
Level 15

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

@Mike9241 is correct; check and see if the contractor is a corporation (no 1099 needed).

 

Also, you don't need to issue a 1099 to the contractor unless your rental property constitutes a "trade or business". For example, if you're taking a QBI deduction, you should issue a 1099. 

Imeli
Returning Member

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

He is a solo landscaper. LLC filed with the state has been closed but appears to be a sole proprietor. I believe I do need to send him a 1099-NEC for the $1900 worth of irrigation lines. I have his full name and address. Should I just hand write and email one to him and IRS and write refused in the EIN section?  

Imeli
Returning Member

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

I do not believe he is a corporation. I see an LLC filed with the state that appears to be a sole proprotor. I do have his name, company name and address. Should I just send him a hand written 1099 NEC and send one to the IRS? He caused a lot of damage to my property because all the irrigation lines leaked so I can understand why he refuses to respond to me asking for the W9 or EIN request. I feel I have not done anything wrong and do not want to risk being audited because he is a dishonest person. 

M-MTax
Level 15

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

You can write "REFUSED" in the tax ID box but be prepared for a follow up. Technically, you're supposed to get a tax ID number before payment if you need to submit a tax reporting form such as a 1099.

 

M-MTax
Level 15

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

Also, make sure you actually need to file a 1099. You don't unless your rental is a trade or business. 

Imeli
Returning Member

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

Yes I do get QBI so I do treat the rental as a business. This landscaper is a sole proprietor. I have sent him numerous texts and calls. I do have that as evidence. Should I send a demand letter? I do have his address but no email address.  

M-MTax
Level 15

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC


@Imeli wrote:

Should I send a demand letter?


That's what I would do in order to show due diligence to the IRS (if questioned).

Imeli
Returning Member

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

Should I do that before I send the 1099 NEC to the contractor and IRS? Its already 1/19/2026 and I am running out of time. I have already wasted 19 days trying to reason with him to get the EIN, TIN or W9. 

M-MTax
Level 15

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

I'd send it ASAP but wouldn't chance blowing the deadline for the 1099 waiting for a response from the contractor (which you probably won't get).

Rental property contactor refuses to give W9 or EIN for 1099-NEC

This it technically wrong, but ... many people in your situation don't file it.

 

There will be a penalty for filing an incomplete 1099.

 

Many people choose to not file the 1099 when they don't have the information and take the risk of maybe getting a penalty if the IRS notices.  But you need to be sure to answer the questions truthfully about 1099s on Schedule E.

 

In the future, always get a W-9 filled out BEFORE you pay a contractor.

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