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My wife and I combined made (block one of the W-2) $186,000.00. We purchased a rental property in 2017 and have approximately $4800 in losses. How do we deduct this loss?

Turbo Tax states that since we make over $150,000.00 we can not deduct any of the loss.  We are not professional real estate people and do actively manage the property.  Am I missing anything?  Is there any other way to realize the $4800 loss?  We were planning on filing a schedule E for the rental, should we be filing in some other manner?  I am using 2018 Home and Business.  We reside and work in Indiana, the rental property is also located in Indiana.

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Carl
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My wife and I combined made (block one of the W-2) $186,000.00. We purchased a rental property in 2017 and have approximately $4800 in losses. How do we deduct this loss?

Just ran across this already answered question and have information to contribute that you may find helpful. It is *EXTREMENTLY* *IMPORTANT* that your numbers be spot-on perfect correct in the first year of owning/reporting rental property. If they are wrong, then the error tends to grow exponentially over time. Then when you catch that error years down the road, the cost of correcting/fixing it can be quite shockingly expensive. So make sure all the numbers you enter for the first year of owning this rental are absotively positutely spot on *PERFECT*.

          • Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence before, then this date is the day AFTER  you moved out.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter "could" have moved in. That should be your "in service" date if you were asked for that. vacant periods between renters count also PROVIDED you did not live in the house for one single day during said period of vacancy.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence or 2nd home, after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

    • RENTAL POPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must add "real" value to the property. In other words, when  the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.


IsabellaG
Employee Tax Expert

My wife and I combined made (block one of the W-2) $186,000.00. We purchased a rental property in 2017 and have approximately $4800 in losses. How do we deduct this loss?

If your rental loss is not allowed because you Adjusted Gross Income is above $150,000 for a joint return, it is carried forward to future years, when either your income is lower or you dispose of the property, in which case you can deduct all disallowed losses.

You should still report the income and expenses as Rental activity so that the carry forward can be calculated correctly.


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