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How can I expense my rental than I built?

I lived in the house before it became a rental after it was newly built.
How can I expense my rental that I built?
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Carl
Level 15

How can I expense my rental than I built?

You don't "expense" residential rental real estate. You are required by law to depreciate it over 27.5 years, with depreciation starting on the first day the property was "available for rent". You'll start under the Business tab in the Rental & Royalty Income (SCH E) section of the program.

The below guidance will help you get started on this. It will also help you ask more specific questions (if necessary) as you go.  Now when it comes to "the numbers", be aware that absolute perfection in your first year is not an option. It's any absolute must. Even the tiniest of mistakes will grow exponentially over time. Then when the error is caught years down the road, the cost of fixing it will be high. So if in doubt, ASK! It's not like you learn this stuff through osmosis. The only stupid question is the one you don't ask.

Also, since you're using the online version, DO NOT pay any of your online fees or "register" until everything is completed. You're gonna find yourself needing to clear your return and start over from scratch, more than once. When you pay your online fees or complete the online registration, the ability to clear the return and start over is "NOT" possible. 

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence or 2nd home before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out, or the date you decided to lease the property – whichever is later.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter was contracted to move in, and/or "could" have moved in. That would be your "in service" date or after if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters do not count for actual days rented. Please see IRS Publication927 page 17 at https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p527.pdf#en_US_2020_publink1000219175 Read the “Example” in the third column.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence, 2nd home, or any other personal use reasons after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that Improve, restore, or otherwise “better” the property. Basically, they retain or add value to the property.

Betterments:
Expenses that may result in a betterment to your property include expenses for fixing a pre-existing defect or condition, enlarging or expanding your property, or increasing the capacity, strength, or quality of your property. An example of a pre-existing condition or defect in this context would be something such as foundation repair (slab jacking) or some other, hidden and costly, anomaly.
Restoration:
Expenses that may be for restoration include expenses for replacing a substantial structural part of your property, repairing damage to your property after you properly adjusted the basis of your property as a result of a casualty loss, or rebuilding your property to a like-new condition.
Adaptation:
Expenses that may be for adaptation include expenses for altering your property to a use that isn’t consistent with the intended ordinary use of your property when you began renting the property. Adding a wheelchair ramp would be an example.

 

Expenses for these types of costs are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria need to be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must retain or add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

There are rules that allow you to just flat-out expense and deduct some property improvements instead of capitalizing and depreciating them, if the total cost of the improvement was less than $2,500. It’s referred to as “safe harbor di-minimis” But depending on the specific situation, this may or may not be beneficial. Just be aware that not every property improvement that cost less than $2,500 qualifies for this. If this interest you, the rules can get complex. So a good place to start reading is on the IRS website at https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations. The stuff on di-minimis starts about one page down.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

MarilynG1
Expert Alumni

How can I expense my rental than I built?

You can't claim expenses you incurred in building your home prior to 'offering for rent' officially.  

 

However, those improvements get added to the Cost Basis of the home, which is important for setting up the home as a Rental Asset (and claiming Depreciation each year).

 

Your Cost Basis is what you paid for the land, and all the expenses to build your home, as well as any improvements made prior to renting.  This will probably be the hardest part for you to determine in setting up your Rental Asset.  Save all records pertaining to the building costs. 

 

This link has some discussion on Cost Basis of a Home Built By Owner.  

 

Any major improvements you make after the home is a rental can be depreciated as Rental Assets too.  Most other types of expenses can be claimed in the year incurred. 

 

Click this link for info on Depreciation and Expenses for Rental Property.

 

Here's more detail on Entering Rental Income and Expenses. 

 

 

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