Hello,
I am the trustee of an irrevocable trust from my father who passed years ago. His will dictated the trust was to provide income support to my mother. She passed away in July 2025. The trust held 2 equity accounts and 2 annuities with death benefit riders. There are will be 3 beneficiaries for 2025 to generate K-1s, my mother, my sibling, and myself. The trust has received 8 statements, 2 1099 Consolidated for the equity accounts, 2 1099-R from the annuity company with ordinary distributions code 7D, 2 annuity 1099-R with death income code 4D, and 2 annuity 1099-INT for interest earned between her death and issuance of the checks to the trust. There are no qualified accounts in the trust.
I am seeking guidance on the 1041 Schedule B Trust Accounting Income worksheet as Turbotax Business does not provide step by step on this.
The equity accounts both have dividend sections with reportable dividend income before and after death.
The equity account of my sibling also has Form 8949 Type D capital gains reported and 8949 type E capital gains not reported.
All 4 annuity 1099-R distributions 7D and 4D have Gross Distributions Box 1, Taxable Amount Box 2a, and Premium distributions Box 5.
The 2 annuity 1099-INT are after death interest.
How do I manually fill out the Accounting Income section on Schedule B. I know that the non-taxable income from the annuities and capital gains do not go on the 1st page 1041 but are they included in the Accounting Income?
Thanks
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Trust accounting income includes all earnings from trust assets that are available for distribution to the beneficiaries. TAI doesn't normally include capital gains but it can depending upon the terms of the trust and past distribution patterns and it also doesn't include income/gains that pass outside of the trust.
It looks like the trust has a lot of different types of income and e beneficiaries with different shares. To be blunt, even though these are family members as trustee you have a fiduclary duty to execute that position with the knowledge and expertise which is a problem if you don't have it. So it would be wise to consult with a local tax pro for this matter.
Sorry for your recent loss.
Thank you for the reply and condolence Hi Palms.
So a few comments here. My mother was originally co-trustee with me and my sibling now is so we are both in this together. The will of my father is the only trust guidance document which is titled in various assets as UWO decedent. We are aligned on distributions with all cash and equity distributed before 2025 year end. Taxes will be pushed to beneficiaries.
We have been struggling with my mother's tax firm and have elected to extend all taxes for the trust, my mother, and beneficiaries. I also notified the firm that I will manage the returns. I have a consulting agreement with my tax advisor to fix this mess after 4/15 as it is too late and they will advise me on completing the 1041 and schedules later. No taxes will be due on the trust as they will be pushed via the K-1s.
I find the exercise interesting and I am trying to complete the 1041 in advance meeting with my tax advisor. The better quality I do, the lower the cost will be plus I have the option of just handing everything over to my advisor if that is the best options. The cost of Turbotax is insignificant.
I did research and understand that the annuity premium distribution in box 5 would be on the Schedule B. I am unclear on the capital gains of my sibling who did take an early distribution for personal reasons which was allowed under our father's will. Each equity account had FBO titling, one for each of us. What I did not know was her financial advisor did the early distribution on a margin loan. That is likely the reason for the long term gain reported and the gain not reported. Net net, we both have 50/50 distribution when the early distribution is included. That follows the will.
My remaining question is, do I include the capital gain or not? From there I will do all further consulting with my tax accountant.
Thanks!
You mentioned an irrevocable trust in your first post but only the Will for guidance in your latest post. Did the Will establish a trust or not? It doesn't make a huge difference in practical terms but if there's no trust the estate should be closed at some time.
The instrument you have should indicate whether you have the authority or discretion to treat capital gains as income and distribute them as such. If you do, then you can treat the gains as income and include them as income and for distribution. in the final year the gains are obviously distributed as is all principal.
Yes - the will states all of his remaining assets were to be held in trust for the support of our mother.
Hi Palms - forgot to add that the will specifically specifies the distribution of income and principle for my mother's support and any unused income would accumulate. Then after her death, the trustees distributes all assets. It is complicated so hope that helps. Your help has been very useful.
Thank you!
Then you have the authority to treat gains as income, clearly.
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