Fix and flip investment as a real estate professional

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October 29, 2022
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I bought 2 homes. One home is my primary and a duplex. I rent half and claim half the deductions as a rental business. I also claimed loses on it for extensive renovations on the rented side. On the other home, I purchased and held for a year. The income accrued off it was less than the losses made on the duplex. Thus I owe no taxes for that tax year. I am assuming I can still claim the 500k credit for a married couple on the duplex since it is my primary residence. Is this correct? This is spread out over multiple years fyi. ie 5 years

Best answer by Hal_Al

Thanks for the clarity! I just have one more question that has been bugging me. Do I have to show some sort of proof for the cost basis?

How does the IRS know that I'm not making it up? I don't want to trigger an audit because isn't the purchase price reported to the IRS when I sell the home? Is there another form or something to show where the difference is coming from?

Q. Do I have to show some sort of proof for the cost basis?

A. No, not at the time you file your tax return. That comes later, if at all, if you are "audited".

Q. How does the IRS know that I'm not making it up?

A, They don't. If they suspect, they'll ask. Don't try to attach proof; it'll foul up your e-fing and will,most liekly, be ignored.

Q. Is there another form or something to show where the difference is coming from?

A. Usually not. Several years ago, the IRS implemented changes to the form 1099-B to make stock brokers report cost basis/capital gains for most stock and mutual fund sales. But, that has not yet happened for real estate sales.

user17750693608

Level 8

What credit are you referring to? The 500k exclusion for selling your primary home? You can get that if you meet the requirements upon the sale but only through the personal half. The duplex is business property and the other house is not your primary residence and it is unclear if it is also a rental.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc701

Hal_Al

Level 15

@usernamesarehard said "I also claimed loses on it for extensive renovations on the rented side."

"Extensive renovations" cannot be deducted. Te cost must be capitalized and depreciated (deducted) over 27.5 years. The undepreciated part may be added to you coat basis, upon sale, resulting in a reduced caopital gain or even a capital loss.

Q. I am assuming I can still claim the 500k credit for a married couple on the duplex since it is my primary residence. Is this correct?

A. No. When you sell the duplex, you may exclude the capital gain (up to $500K) only on the half that was your principal residence (assuming you owned and lived in it 2+ years).

@usernamesarehard said "This is spread out over multiple years fyi. ie 5 years".

I don't know what that means. The exclusion of the gain on the sale of your principal residence is claimed in the year of sale.

usernamesarehardAuthor

Level 3

Thanks for the reply! I thought if I did the remodeling before I rented it out, it counts as a deduction. Is this correct? Is there ever a scenario that when you remodel an investment that it counts as a deduction? I thought when you purchased an investment property then remodeled it it counted as a deduction. i.e. bought for 100k paid for 50k remodeling sold for 200k. taxable income 50k? is it not the same when you purchase a rental?

usernamesarehardAuthor

Level 3

ignore half of this I just realized you answered it. but still curious about:

I thought if I did the remodeling before I rented it out, it counts as a deduction. Is this correct? Is there ever a scenario that when you remodel an investment that it counts as a deduction?

usernamesarehardAuthor

Level 3

So just to add clarity incase anyone ever digs this up. You can as a real estate professional use the losses from one home as a deduction for another home. I did just realize though that renovations do not count as a deduction but are added to the cost basis to the home when it is sold or if you decide to depreciate it over 27.5 years. There is also no issue with the 500k deduction for married couples selling their primary home as long as you are not listing either side of the duplex as a rental on your tax returns. Also you apparently do not need a justification for the cost basis for your investment sale if it is a fix and flip.(held for 2 years)

Please let me know if I'm wrong.