smurch77
Returning Member

My 401k plan administrator issued a refund for (most of) the excess contributions I made last year. Where do I enter the federal tax withholding they took out?

Will the withholding be included on the 1099R next year, on which the earnings will be reported? The withholding was greater than the earnings.

smurch77
Returning Member

Retirement tax questions

I have not received the 1099R. The excess was in 2018. They said they would send a 1099R at the end of this year. I know that the withholding happened because it is listed as part of the transaction debiting my account on April 9th.
MFlournoy
New Member

Retirement tax questions

You can add additional federal taxes you have paid on Schedule 5 of the 1040 form. Search this form in Turbo Tax and it will walk you through how to add amount.
MFlournoy
New Member

Retirement tax questions

If you are able to withdraw the excess contribution in time, you can report the excess contribution on line 7 of your 2018 Tax Return without a Form 1099-R by following these steps: 

  • Click on the "Federal Taxes" Tab
  • Click on the "Wages & Income" Tab
  • Click on "I'll choose what I work on"
  • Scroll down to "Less Common Income"
  • Select "Miscellaneous Income" and click Start or Update
  • Select "Other income not already reported on a Form W-2 or Form 1099" and click on Start
  • Answer the Question "Did you receive any other wages?  Yes
  • Click through the questions until you get to "Any Other Earned Income"
  • Answer Yes to "Did you earn any other wages?
  • Indicate "Other" as Source of Other Earned Income and click Continue
  • For the description enter "2018 Excess 401K Deferrals" and click on Done
smurch77
Returning Member

Retirement tax questions

My question was regarding the federal withholding. The above answer does not say what to do with that.
MFlournoy
New Member

Retirement tax questions

Where do you see the federal tax that was withheld for this excess contribution?
MFlournoy
New Member

Retirement tax questions

You should have received a 1099-R for the excess contribution. Have you imported your 1099-R into Turbo Tax? Is the withheld tax included on your 1099-R?

Timely withdrawal of excess contributions by April 15

Excess deferrals withdrawn by April 15 of the year following the year of deferral are taxable in the calendar year deferred.
Earnings are taxable in the year they're distributed.
There is no 10% early distribution tax, no 20% withholding and no spousal consent requirement on amounts timely distributed.
Consequences of a late distribution

Under IRC Section 401(a)(30), if the excess deferrals aren't withdrawn by April 15, each affected plan of the employer is subject to disqualification and would need to go through EPCRS.
Under EPCRS, these excess deferrals are still subject to double taxation; that is, they're taxed both in the year contributed to and in the year distributed from the plan.
For any distributions, attributable to elective deferrals designated as Roth Contributions, all distributions will be reported as taxable in the year distributed. Designated Roth contributions will have already been included in income in the year of deferral.
These late distributions could also be subject to the 10% early distribution tax, 20% withholding and spousal consent requirements.
Excess deferrals distributed to highly compensated employees are included in the Actual Deferral Percentage (ADP) test in the year the amounts were deferred. Excess deferrals distributed to nonhighly compensated employees aren't included in the ADP test if all deferrals were made with one employer. Excess deferrals distributed after April 15 are included in annual additions for the year deferred.

How to find the mistake:

Ensure that no one's elective deferrals exceed the 402(g) limit for a year by comparing the amount deferred to the 402(g) limit. If anyone exceeds the 402(g) limit and this isn't corrected, the plan could be disqualified.

How to fix the mistake:

IRC Section 72(t) imposes a 10% additional tax for distributions that don't meet an exception, such as death, disability or attainment of age 59 ½, among others. To avoid this additional tax, correct excess deferrals no later than April 15 of the following year. If you don't correct by April 15, you may still correct this mistake under EPCRS; however, it won’t relieve any Section 72(t) tax resulting from the mistake.

Under Revenue Procedure 2016-51, Appendix A, section .04, the permitted correction method is to distribute the excess deferral to the employee and to report the amount as taxable both in the year of deferral and in the year distributed. These amounts are reported on Forms 1099-R. These amounts are reported on Forms 1099-R. In the case of amounts designated as Roth contributions, the excess deferral will already have been reported in income in the year of deferral. However, the amount will be reported as taxable in the year distributed.

Retirement tax questions

I have the same issue.

 

The problem is that the check I got was tax-withheld.  I got the check before April 15th.   Let's say the 401k excess amount was $10000.  The check I got was $7000 (30% withheld).     If I enter $10000 into TurboTax (for the current year), my tax goes up 30%.    Doesn't this mean I am double-taxed ?    They say they will send 1099-R next year, and suggested to contact TurboTax to enter the withheld amount (or rate) for the excess $10000.      Where do I enter the withheld amount or the rate ?  Or should I enter $7000 as the excess amount? 

Retirement tax questions

Let me clarify a little bit here..

 

I got the check before April 15th.   Let's say the 401k excess amount was $10000.  The check I got was $7000 (30% withheld).     If I enter $10000 into TurboTax (for the current year), my tax goes up the extra $3000.   

 

Doesn't this mean I am double-taxed ?    They say they will send 1099-R next year, and suggested to contact TurboTax to find where to enter the withheld amount (or rate) for the excess $10000.     

 

Where do I enter the withheld amount ($3000) or the rate (30%) in TurboTax?