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February 21, 2022
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Traditional IRA to Roth recharacterization limits and withdrawal

  • February 21, 2022
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Hi,

I made a contribution to the traditional IRA in Apr 2021 for year 2021 and recharacterized it to a Roth IRA as I can't contribute to a traditional IRA due to income limits and 401k. However, as I prepare to file the tax for 2021 in Turbo tax, It says that my AGI is too high and this is excess contribution (my AGI is over 208k). It also applied some tax to the transaction as the calculated tax due number went up too.

Do I have to withdraw the full amount and if yes, how to do it? And how to report it in Turbo tax if I withdraw it now.

If not, can I just pay that tax and leave it like that?

Thanks for the help.

Rajesh

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    macuser_22
    Alumni - Champ
    Alumni - Champ
    February 21, 2022

    You probably did not enter the Traditional IRA contribution properly and say you switched it to a Roth (recharactorized).  Be sure you enter it as a Traditional IRA contribution.

     

    Enter IRA contributions here:
    Federal Taxes,
    Deductions & Credits,
    I’ll choose what I work on (if that screen comes up),
    Retirement & Investments,
    Traditional & Roth IRA contribution.

    OR  Use the "Tools" menu  (if online version under My Account) and then "Search Topics" for "ira contributions" which will take you to the same place.

    If you qualify for a deduction then TurboTax will ask if you want to make it non-deductible. If you do then a 8606 form will be added with the non-deductible amount on line 1.

    **Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**
    goyal_rajAuthor
    Level 5
    February 21, 2022

    Thanks.

    Here is what i did Under Retirement and Investments:

    Select the kind of IRA- i checked on Traditional IRA

    Is this a repayment of a retirement distribution- No

    Tell us how much you contributed for 2021, even if you later transferred some or all of  it to Roth - entered 6000

    Tell us how much you transferred- how much did you switch or recharacterize to a Roth IRA- 6000

    Your IRA Explanation statement- "not eligible for a traditional IRA'

    Any excess contributions before 2021- No

    Any non deductible contributions to Rajesh's IRA (traditional IRA from 2020 or prior years)- no (since I recharacterized them all)

    Is this a repayment of a retirement distribution- No

    It says "Your income is too high to contribute. It is an excess contribution".

     

    My Vanguards statement also shows the following:

    1. Gross Distribution- 6000

    2a. Taxable amount- 6000

    2b. Taxable amount not determined-(X)

    7. Distribution code- 2

    IRA/SEP/SIMPLE- (X)

     

    What should I change?

    Thanks

     

    macuser_22
    Alumni - Champ
    Alumni - Champ
    February 21, 2022

    @goyal_raj wrote:

    Thanks.

    Here is what i did Under Retirement and Investments:

    Select the kind of IRA- i checked on Traditional IRA

    Is this a repayment of a retirement distribution- No

    Tell us how much you contributed for 2021, even if you later transferred some or all of  it to Roth - entered 6000

    Tell us how much you transferred- how much did you switch or recharacterize to a Roth IRA- 6000

    Your IRA Explanation statement- "not eligible for a traditional IRA'

    Any excess contributions before 2021- No

    Any non deductible contributions to Rajesh's IRA (traditional IRA from 2020 or prior years)- no (since I recharacterized them all)

    Is this a repayment of a retirement distribution- No

    It says "Your income is too high to contribute. It is an excess contribution".

     

    My Vanguards statement also shows the following:

    1. Gross Distribution- 6000

    2a. Taxable amount- 6000

    2b. Taxable amount not determined-(X)

    7. Distribution code- 2

    IRA/SEP/SIMPLE- (X)

     

    What should I change?

    Thanks

     


    You are mistaken on your original question.  High income and 401(k) does not prevent a Traditional IRA contribution but it can prevent the ability to *deduct* it.  It would just become an non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution but high income can make a Roth contribution not eligible at all - that is probably your problem.    You are not eligible to recharactorize to a Roth if you cannot contribute to a Roth at all because if high income.

     

    If your income is too high for a Roth contribution and you do not want a non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution then your only choice to to request a "return of contribution" and any earnings from the IRA custodian.   This must be done before the due date of the tax return or extended due date if an extension is filed.

     

    See these IRS articles for the deduction limits and Roth contribution limits.

     

    See this IRS link for Traditional IRA deduction limits when covered by a retirement plan at work.

    https://www.irs.gov/Retirement-Plans/IRA-Deduction-Limits

     

    See this IRS article for Roth contribution limits:

    https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/roth-iras

     

    If you do not remove the excess that is now in the Roth, it will be subject to a yearly 6% penalty that will repeat each year that it remains in the Roth.

    **Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**