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Level 1
June 1, 2019
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About Live-In-Self-Certification Form SOC 2298

  • June 1, 2019
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I received a letter from IHSS saying that providers who live with the recipient of those services are not considered part of gross income for purpose of federal income tax. If I submit the Live-In-Self-Certification Form ( SOC 2298 ), will I have to deal with the taxes at the end of the year like a deferred tax payment or is it totally excluded from filing the income tax? Is it best to submit the form or just file the income tax like we normally do every year?

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Lisa995
Alumni - Champ
Alumni - Champ
June 1, 2019
You may get a computer "mismatch" letter, Notice CP2000 in the next year or 2....just respond with the explanation that you qualify for the income to be non taxable and cite Notice 2014-7 and it should get cleared up fairly easily.
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Level 2
June 1, 2019
Lisa995: Thanks for the heads up!
Level 2
June 1, 2019
banannamouse: You may need to modify your W4 so that you don't have any income with-held.
Level 2
June 1, 2019
I filled out the SOC 2298 in Nov 2016 and just received my Jan pay stub. It still shows that they are withholding Federal and state taxes. Is this right?
Level 13
June 1, 2019

As the others mentioned, if you fill out the certification, your W-2 (if any) will be correct, and you won't need to fiddle around on the tax return trying to make it right.  So it will be easier if you fill out the certification.

VolvoGirl
Level 15
June 1, 2019
But if you do get a W2 you need to show it on your tax return and enter an offsetting amount to zero it out.  Or the IRS will think you didn't report the W2.
VolvoGirl
Level 15
June 1, 2019
There are a couple ways to enter a W2 for IHSS wages.

1. Enter the W2 as normal wages on line 7.  

Then make an entry on 1040 line 21 Other Income to offiset it by going to
Federal Taxes
Wages and Income
Choose Jump to Full List -or  I'll choose what I work on
Scroll way down to the end  - Less Common Income
Click start or update next to the last one "miscellaneous income"
Then the last one for Other Reportable Income
For description enter “Notice 2014-7” . Enter the amount with a minus sign (-) in front of it.

2.  Or when you enter the W2 it gives you the EIC credit for it (which would be wrong) see this FAQ
https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2635384-qualified-medicaid-waiver-payments-on-a-w-2-show-as-earned-income-for-eic

So you either completely exclude the W2 from your return or enter it under Miscellaneous Income.   To enter it as Misc Income use the same steps as above and you will make 2 entries.

Your first entry description would be W-2 EIN # (enter EIN number from W-2) Box 1 Medicaid Waiver Payments, and enter the Box 1 amount as a positive number.

Next you click "Add Another Miscellaneous Income Item," and enter this description: IRS Notice 2014-7 excludable income and enter the W-2 Box 1 amount as a Negative (-) number. This both shows and explains removing the W-2 income, placing a zero on Line 21 of your Form 1040.

Then if your W-2 has federal or state taxes withheld, you can enter these amounts in the Deductions & Credits section under Estimates and Other Taxes Paid, or Other Income Taxes Paid as Withholding not already entered on W-2.
Level 2
June 1, 2019
okay I did it the way you mentioned in post 1, But I got this error message in turbo tax and it says my federal and state taxes were rejected

Heres the error message: Form 1040, Line 64 'WithholdingTaxAmt' must be less than the sum of the following: [Line 7 'WagesSalariesAndTipsAmt' and Line 8a 'TaxableInterestAmt' and Line 9a 'OrdinaryDividendsAmt' and (Line 15a 'IRADistributionsAmt' or Line 15b 'TaxableIRAAmt') and (Line 16a 'PensionsAnnuitiesAmt' or Line 16b 'TotalTaxablePensionsAmt' ) and Line 19 'UnemploymentCompAmt' and Line 20a 'SocSecBnftAmt' and ( all 'OtherIncomeAmt' in [OtherIncomeTypeStatement] attached to Line 21 ) and ( all Schedule C (Form 1040), Line 1 'TotalGrossReceiptsAmt' ) and ( all Schedule C-EZ(Form 1040), Line 1 'TotalGrossReceiptsAmt' ) ] unless one of the following is true: (1) Line 13 'CapitalGainLossAmt' has a non-zero value; (2) Line 14 'OtherGainLossAmt' has a non-zero value; (3) Line 17 'RentalRealEstateIncomeLossAmt' has a non-zero value; (4) Line 18 'NetFarmProfitLossAmt' has a non-zero value; (5) Combat Pay has been excluded from wages.
Reject Code F1040-071-03.

Do you know what this means?