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Kid got $9000 in scholarship which I withdrew from the 529, but cant get TT to avoid penalty.
3 1098-Ts (due to cross registration)
All 1098 Box 1 totals - $22,194.5
Additional question – Looks like I could have withdrawn more. Can I still do it before the April 15th deadline? Or is Dec 31st the cut off?
Thank you so much in advance
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Q. I have 3 1098T entered right now. Should I combine still combine?
A. Not if it's working. That was just to reduce steps. Based on your "Adding additional info - form 5329 lists" numbers, TT appears to be doing it correctly.
Q. I also realized that one 1098-T was for payment made in Dec 2025 for the 2026 winter semester (box 7 checked). Should I still keep it on this return?
A. Yes. Payments made in 2025 for the winter 2026 term count for 2025 taxes, including 529 distributions taken in 2025.
Q. Given that, can I withdraw in 2026 towards this (2025) 1098T?
A. No.
Q. Or is it cash basis and withdrawals are based on payment days, not education received dates?
A. Yes
Q. Given that there is no penalty anymore after I added R&B, but we do have higher taxes, is it still worth shifting $9k to him?
A. Yes. You will be paying tax on the earnings portion (about $3000) of that (slightly less than) $9000. He has no tax, but does have the cost of preparing a tax return. And maybe not even that. Technically he does not need to file. His income is under the $15,750 filing requirement. But you may want to have him file to document the treating of the scholarship as income.
Q. What other criteria we should consider in this situation?
A. The "big one" is usually the tuition credit. But, you're not eligible.
Adding additional info - form 5329 lists
- distribution included in income - $6004
- amount subject to taxes - $2825
- additional taxes - $283
TT calculates additional $2784 tax due after I added the 1099/1098 (Why so much?)
Schedule 1 states Other income from Tuition program from 1099Q $6004 (should not it be the interest portion of the $9k only?)
Q. Can I still withdraw from the 529 before the April 15th deadline?
A. No. Dec 31 is the cut off for a 2025 distribution. It's also not clear why you think you coulda withdrawn more. More would be subject to both tax and penalty. With your numbers, the scholarship amount was not going to totally eliminate the penalty.
"Side note: I withdrew $9000 separately, so I have records stating earnings were $3628 on that $9k."
That's not clear. The 529 plan will issue a separate 1099-Q for that distribution or combine the two distributions on one 1099-Q. Either way, the money taken out of a 529 plan is documented with 1099-Q(s). I'm assuming $31, 732 is your total distribution (the $9000 does not need to be accounted for separately at tax time).
Are you sure R&B is on the 1098-T? That is very unusual (but not unheard of).
Since the student has no other income and the scholarship is not restricted, one thing you can do is have him declare the $9000 as taxable income. Then $9000 more of the 529 distribution is qualified and both the tax and penalty are reduced. . He will not pay any actual tax on the $9000, as his standard deduction is more than $9000*.
There was an update today. TT appears to be working better in the education section. I suggest you combine the box 1 numbers and enter only one 1098-T. If you use the taxable scholarship option, leave box 5 blank when you enter the 1098-T, on your return. If you still have problems, reply back for a workaround.
*Scholarships are a hybrid between earned and unearned income. It is earned income for purposes of the $15,750 filing requirement (2025) and the dependent standard deduction calculation (earned income + $450). It is not earned income for the kiddie tax and other purposes (e.g. EIC).Taxable scholarship goes on line 8r of Schedule 1, from which TT treats it as hybrid income.
When you enter the 1098-T, on his return, enter it with $0 in box 1 and $9000 in box 5.
Thank you. You are absolutely right! Not sure why I assumed R&B were included into 1099!
I have additional $8363 for the room and board paid to the college and I withdrew from 529 based on that and thoughts it was already in the 1099.
Thank you for pointing it out. I added it to the TT and it seems that now everything make sense and working properly.
I have 3 1098T entered right now. Should I combine still combine?
I also realized that one 1098T was for payment made in Dec 2025 for the 2026 winter semester (box 7 checked). Should I still keep it on this return? Given that, can I withdrew in 2026 towards this 1098T or is it cash basis and withdrawals are based on payment days, not education received dates?
Thank you for your suggestion about putting $9k tuition on my kid's. Given that there is no penalty anymore after I added R&B, but we do have higher taxes, is it still worth shifting $9k to him? What other criteria we should consider in this situation. Thank you
Q. I have 3 1098T entered right now. Should I combine still combine?
A. Not if it's working. That was just to reduce steps. Based on your "Adding additional info - form 5329 lists" numbers, TT appears to be doing it correctly.
Q. I also realized that one 1098-T was for payment made in Dec 2025 for the 2026 winter semester (box 7 checked). Should I still keep it on this return?
A. Yes. Payments made in 2025 for the winter 2026 term count for 2025 taxes, including 529 distributions taken in 2025.
Q. Given that, can I withdraw in 2026 towards this (2025) 1098T?
A. No.
Q. Or is it cash basis and withdrawals are based on payment days, not education received dates?
A. Yes
Q. Given that there is no penalty anymore after I added R&B, but we do have higher taxes, is it still worth shifting $9k to him?
A. Yes. You will be paying tax on the earnings portion (about $3000) of that (slightly less than) $9000. He has no tax, but does have the cost of preparing a tax return. And maybe not even that. Technically he does not need to file. His income is under the $15,750 filing requirement. But you may want to have him file to document the treating of the scholarship as income.
Q. What other criteria we should consider in this situation?
A. The "big one" is usually the tuition credit. But, you're not eligible.
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