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You can't enter room and board expenses yet. This is a known glitch in TurboTax (TT). They are working on it. Try again after the next up date.
The 2025 education and 529 sections appear totally redesigned, from last year.
The 1099-Q is only an informational document. The numbers on it are not required to be entered onto your (or your student's) tax return. The interview is complicated and it's easy to make mistakes. Avoid it if you can and you probably can.
You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records (you don’t need it). You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships.
References:
Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit. Room and board (R&B) are also qualified expenses for the 529 distribution, but not the AOC (R&B are also not qualified expenses for a scholarship to be tax free).
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses (including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
There is $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax.
Do we know when this going to be fixed?
I get used to enter 1099Q for last few years, and was always asked if these expenses are qualified. Was absolutely shocked, when saw TT just silently made the earnings taxable with extra 10% penalty this year. Many people probably do not check the final documents and just trust "we will get you the biggest refund possible" ad.
Yeah, I understand I can just delete 1099Q, and that's what I will do, but this is frustrating.
Which version of TurboTax are you using? If you are using the desktop version for MAC, you will get the opportunity to enter the expenses in the 1098-T section. If you are using the Windows desktop version, if you click on the pencil next to the person whose expenses were paid, you should be able to walk through and enter your expenses.
This WAS an issue, but it has been updated and now you can enter the expenses, so if you have not updated your program, please do so to enter the expenses.
I use the desktop version. 1098-T is in the beneficiary name (the child), and the 1099-Q is in my name. I cannot put someone's else 1098-T on my return. In fact TT does not even allow it, there is no option to add 1098-T except for the persons on the return. I would assume this is not a rare situation, when parents open the 529 in their name and dedicate their child as the beneficiary. In previous years I could handle this situation in 1099-Q section by simply stating the distributions were used for room and board, tuition etc. Now I cannot, and 1099-Q automatically becomes taxable.
Yes, I just deleted 1099-Q, and it helped, but this is misleading. There should be at least some guidance in the 1099-Q interview for the situation like this. My situation is simple, the entire distribution is qualified, so I can just drop 1099-Q. What if someone made the distribution for the child, then figured out only a part of it is qualified?
Q. Can I put someone's else's 1098-T on my return?
A. Yes. The 1098-T almost always goes on the parent's return.
Here's a post on the five main points on the 1098-T:
Well, the child is not dependent anymore, got more than $5,200 for the internship. So I believe I cannot put their 1098-T on my return. I should still be able to claim 1099-Q distribution as tax free, since I used this money to pay for their qualified expenses (regardless of dependency status the child is still the beneficiary). The child will not be able to claim educational credit though (so 1098-T does not go on their return either), but this is OK, since I am getting tax relieve, which should be bigger.
Am I correct?
Q. Well, the child is not dependent anymore, got more than $5,200 for the internship. Right?
A. Maybe. The $5200 income rule, alone, does not disqualify a student-child from being a dependent.
There are two types of dependents, "Qualifying Children"(QC) and Other ("Qualifying Relative" in IRS parlance even though they don't have to actually be related). There is no income limit for a QC but there is an age limit, student status, a relationship test and residence test.
A child of a taxpayer can still be a “Qualifying Child” (QC) dependent, regardless of his/her income, if:
So, it doesn't matter how much he earned. What matters is how much he spent on support. Money he put into savings does not count as support he spent on himself.
The support value of the home, provided by the parent, is the fair market rental value of the home plus utilities & other expenses divided by the number of occupants.
The IRS has a worksheet that can be used to help with the support calculation. See: http://apps.irs.gov/app/vita/content/globalmedia/teacher/worksheet_for_determining_support_4012.pdf
See full dependent rules at: https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/Family/Rules-for-Claiming-a-Dependent-on-Your-Tax-Ret...
Q. I should still be able to claim 1099-Q distribution as tax free, since I used this money to pay for their qualified expenses (regardless of dependency status the child is still the beneficiary). Right?
A. Yes. It even goes further. You did not have to actually use the money to pay education expenses. It is only necessary that he had expenses and did not use those expenses to claim another tax benefit (tax free scholarship and/or tuition credit), no double dipping. Room and board (R&B) are qualified expenses for a 529 distribution but not tax free scholarship and a tuition credit.
Q. The child will not be able to claim educational credit though, but this is OK, since I am getting tax relief, which should be bigger. Right?
A. It depends on the numbers, including how much R&B there is. Only the earnings portion of the 1099-Q is taxable. So the taxable portion, of a distribution is only a fraction of the total distribution. So, it depends on the student's tax liability and which credit he is eligible for, whether you benefit is bigger. The tuition credit is usually the biggest benefit. Tax free scholarship also usually beats tax free 529 distribution. The 10% penalty is waived in those situations.
OK, thank you. So it looks like I still can put my child as a dependent, and even qualify for $500 Other Dependent Credit.
I have the same issue (distribution showing as taxable income), so under the Form 1099Q question, do you just say NO you did not receive it?
Q. Under the Form 1099Q question, do you just say NO you did not receive it?
A. Yes, you say no.
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