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26 year old full- time graduate student. lives at home. made 35,000 and is not my dependent. i got the 1099-q as recipient but i am not the beneficiary. all proceeds applied to college. when i enter the numbers from the form, i got hit with big tax liability. how can i avoid that?
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On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient read: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution.
Just keep the 1099-Q and the calculation of how the distribution is covered by education expenses in your tax records.
As others have said, you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records (you don’t need it).
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But, you and the beneficiary would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for him/her to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. For a full explanation, read on.
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and usually should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit. Grad students are not eligible for the more generous American Opportunity Credit, but can claim the Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC), which is 20% of tuition up to $10K, but is non refundable.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
There is $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax.
Thank you so much for your prompt reply and hoping you can provide additional insight. 26-year-old graduate student daughter who lives at home and made $35,000 in W2 income (which, unfortunately, had very little federal withholding). She received 1098-T with $18,800 in box one and $10,000 in box two. The 1099-q came to me with $14,600 in box one, $8,600 in box 2, and $6,000 in box 3. Please advise on how best to handle the 1099-q and 1098-T. Additional College expenses are just for books and supplies
One more piece of information is that I took this payment late in 2024 really to help pay for her tuition for 2025 semester
If the student is not your dependent, therefore not listed on your tax return, if you do enter the 1099-Q, the program will ask what the distribution was used for. You would select education expenses.
The program will then ask who the student was. You would select "Someone not on this tax return" and that would be the end of it. The distribution would not be taxable.
In that case, as others have already said, the 1099-Q needn't even be entered.
Payments made in the year count if they are for classes of that same year and/or the first three months of the following year.
Since the student is not your dependent, I suggest the student make the distributions so the 1099-Q is properly issued to the student.
Q. I took this distribution late in 2024 really to help pay for her tuition for 2025 semester?
A. Technically, you are not allowed to do that. To be a qualified distribution, the money must be withdrawn in the same year that expenses were paid. If you actually paid the 2025 tuition, in 2024, that would count. But, that's just academic, as you're probably covered anyway. Read on.
Q. Additional College expenses are just for books and supplies?
A. Those expenses count against a 529 distribution. Room and board also count, even if the student lives at home. Use the lesser of her actual costs or the school's allowance for cost of attendance (COA).
Q. She received 1098-T with $18,800 in box 1 and $10,000 in box 5 (not 2).
A. She claims $8800 for the Lifetime Learning Credit. That's a $1760 reduction in her tax liability
Q. The 1099-q came to me with $14,600 in box one, $8,600 in box 2, and $6,000 in box 3. Please advise on how best to handle the 1099-q and 1098-T.
A. You claim the room and board and book expenses against the 1099-Q. A portion of the $8600 will most likely be taxable.
Q. How do I enter all this in TurboTax?
A. Enter the 1099-Q. When asked who the student is answer: someone else not listed here. Enter the student's name when asked. A few screens later, you'll get one simple screen to enter expenses. Press Done at the 1099-Q summary screen, to get there. Enter tuition, room & board, books and supplies. Also enter $18,800 in the box "Tax-free assistance" (because $10,000 was covered by scholarship and $8800 was used by her to claim the LLC credit). This reports some of the earnings as taxable and claims the scholarship/tuition credit exception. You do not have to deal with the complicated “Educational expenses and Scholarships” (1098-T) section later. TT will prepare form 5329 to claim the penalty exception.
Q. What might be working against me is that I took these proceeds late in 2024 to pay for the 2025 semester.
A. Not really. She is using all the tuition to claim the lifetime Learning Credit (LLC) and keeping her scholarship tax free. None of your 529 distribution will be allocated to tuition.
Q. Can you claim the room and board expenses for the 1st term of 2025 against your 2024 1099-Q. Technically, probably not, since the money was not actually spent in 2024. That said,
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Thank you and sorry for the double post. I did not know if you would respond to my initial reply or if I had to post it as a new question
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