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bsardana
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1) Is it mandatory for the student to file taxes for 1099-Q? 2) Does student also report 1080-T scholarships part of taxes? 3) What if tuition is larger than all distrib?

 
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Hal_Al
Level 15

1) Is it mandatory for the student to file taxes for 1099-Q? 2) Does student also report 1080-T scholarships part of taxes? 3) What if tuition is larger than all distrib?

Q. a) The student does not have to file any taxes for 2019 - the student has no other income - Is this correct (Y/N)?

A. a).  Yes

 

Q. b) The parent does not have to report any 1098-T or 1099-Q because the tuition is larger than all distributions - Is this correct (Y/N)?

A. b). Yes

 

Q. c) Is there something to be reported in the above scenario? 

A. c).  No. Do not enter either the 1098-T or 1099-Q on your tax return. Do not prepare or file a tax return for the student. 

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Hal_Al
Level 15

1) Is it mandatory for the student to file taxes for 1099-Q? 2) Does student also report 1080-T scholarships part of taxes? 3) What if tuition is larger than all distrib?

Q.  Is it mandatory for the student to file taxes for 1099-Q?

A.  No.  The 1099-Q only needs to be reported if a portion of it is taxable. See explanation below, including the part about WHO reports the 1099-Q

 

Q. Does student also report 1098-T scholarships part of taxes?

A. Maybe.  He reports the taxable portion of scholarships, if any. See "Loop hole" below.

 

Q. What if tuition is larger than all distrib?

A. Then, no, the 1099-Q does not need to be reported. 

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Qualified Tuition Plans - 529 Plans

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free

60%x600= $360

You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

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Taxable Scholarship taxable Loop Hole

 There is a tax “loophole” available. The student reports all his scholarship, up to the amount needed to claim the American opportunity credit, as income on his return. That way, the parents  (or himself, if he is not a dependent) can claim the tuition credit on their return. They can do this because that much tuition was no longer paid by "tax free" scholarship.  You cannot do this if the school’s billing statement specifically shows the scholarships being applied to tuition or if the conditions of the grant are that it be used to pay for qualified expenses.

Using an example: Student has $10,000 in box 5 of the 1098-T and $8000 in box 1. At first glance he/she has $2000 of taxable income and nobody can claim the American opportunity credit. But if she reports $6000 as income on her return, the parents can claim $4000 of qualified expenses on their return.

You can both use the 1098-T to enter the expenses. If you claim the tuition credit, you do need to report that you got one (the TurboTax interview will handle this) Your son should use the 1098-T because it makes entering scholarship income go smoother.

 

bsardana
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1) Is it mandatory for the student to file taxes for 1099-Q? 2) Does student also report 1080-T scholarships part of taxes? 3) What if tuition is larger than all distrib?

Thank you for your responses. To be absolutely clear, let's take an example of a student: John Doe

 

Total Tuition Per Semester: $30,000 (1098-T)

Scholarship Per Semester: $10,000 (1098-T)

1099-Q Distributions (Beneficiary: John Doe): $10,000

Parent Paid The Rest: $10,000

 

Given the above example:

 

a) The student does not have to file any taxes for 2019 - the student has no other income - Is this correct (Y/N)?

b) The parent does not have to report any 1098-T or 1099-Q because the tuition is larger than all distributions - Is this correct (Y/N)?

c) Is there something to be reported in the above scenario? 

 

Thank you.

Hal_Al
Level 15

1) Is it mandatory for the student to file taxes for 1099-Q? 2) Does student also report 1080-T scholarships part of taxes? 3) What if tuition is larger than all distrib?

Q. a) The student does not have to file any taxes for 2019 - the student has no other income - Is this correct (Y/N)?

A. a).  Yes

 

Q. b) The parent does not have to report any 1098-T or 1099-Q because the tuition is larger than all distributions - Is this correct (Y/N)?

A. b). Yes

 

Q. c) Is there something to be reported in the above scenario? 

A. c).  No. Do not enter either the 1098-T or 1099-Q on your tax return. Do not prepare or file a tax return for the student. 

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