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Can anyone help me figure out how to decipher the accompanying info attached to my K-1 for estates and trusts so I can answer the turbo tax questions?

 
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Can anyone help me figure out how to decipher the accompanying info attached to my K-1 for estates and trusts so I can answer the turbo tax questions?

I don't see any specific line item questions.  To help in a general way, here is a link to IRS Instructions/1041 Sch K-1.

 

https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1041sk1

 

 

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jtax
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Can anyone help me figure out how to decipher the accompanying info attached to my K-1 for estates and trusts so I can answer the turbo tax questions?

Generally TT will about most of the common things on K-1s. E.g. it will say "what is in box 1" what is in box 4, etc. Or what codes and amounts are in box 14.  For the typical dividends/interest, etc. the process is usually not very complicated.

 

There are a few tricky things that are related to supplemental statements and box 12/13/14 codes that need extra attention. If you run through the questions and it turns out you have those feel free to ask again with the detailed information about box numbers, any codes provided, or the supplemental statement you have an perhaps someone can help.

 

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Can anyone help me figure out how to decipher the accompanying info attached to my K-1 for estates and trusts so I can answer the turbo tax questions?

TT asks for Line 14 codes and amounts.  I have Codes B ($48) and I ($77)  I entered that info, then the next page of TT asks for detail about the foreign income:

Foreign Country or U.S. Possession

Gross Income Sourced at Beneficiary Level:

"            "              "                  "                     "         U.S. Source Income

                                                                                   Foreign Source Income

I'm confused about what info are they asking about which I believe is on the accompanying statements, but I don't see those word Source anywhere, so I guessed.

 

A few pages later, TT asks about foreign tax info in Line 14:  Deductions Allocated and Apportioned at Beneficiary Level:

Interest Expense:   Total

"              "                  U.S. Source

                                   Foreign Source

Other Deductions: Total

                                   U.S Source

                                   Foreign Source

 

 The K-1 Income/Deduction Detail attached statement has:

Allocation of Deductions  

Income Description        

Expense Allocation Methodology

Deduction Description

and more...I won't type it all unless some how someone can help me through my confusion.  

 

jtax
Level 10

Can anyone help me figure out how to decipher the accompanying info attached to my K-1 for estates and trusts so I can answer the turbo tax questions?

Hi @Rorah ... the Foreign tax credit/deduction stuff is the most complicated thing about most trust k-1s.

 

Box 14 code I is the new (2017 tax act) "section 199A" pass through deduction. I.e. a lower rate for some dividends coming from certain companies. That # should be what shows up on line 10 of form 1040. TT might ask questions about it later, but I would think you would be OK just entering code I in the K-1.

 

Box 14 code B is the amount of foreign taxes paid by the trust (usually for mutual funds with overseas dividends that are taxed by a foreign company).

 

You are allowed either a deduction or a credit for those taxes. Usually a credit is better but not always. To take the credit more information is needed. Specifically TT needs to total all of your income that was subject to the foreign taxes. Let's play with some #'s.

 

Your total income $100,000. Your foreign income $5,000. Your total US tax owed $15,000. Your foreign tax paid $1000.

 

The amount of that $1000 that you are allowed as a credit is $15,000 (US total tax) * 5000 (foreign income) / 100,000 (US income) = 15000 * 5% = $750. 

 

So even though you paid $1000 in foreign taxes, you only get a credit for $750. Credits reduce that tax you pay dollar for dollar, so you US tax bill would go down by $750.

 

(This is oversimplified but it gives you the idea.).

 

On the other hand you could deduct the full $1000. You can see that might be better depending upon your marginal tax rate and the exact amounts involved. I usually do it both ways to see which is better.

However, to do the credit calculation (but not the deduction) you need the trusts's income that is allocated to you (as the beneficiary) from the US and its income from foreign sources. If you just had foreign source info, I would say you would back into the US income number (total income - foreign income = US income).

But you need foreign income. If the trustee doesn't provide that you can't take the credit. (You don't have to take the credit, but not doing so leaves money  on the table). You can ask for that info. 

 

If the code B number is not a lot and especially if you think the foreign income is a small % of overall income, it may not be worth bothering. You could probably just leave out the code B from box 14.  The max you could gain is the code B # and you usually won't get it all.

Does that help? If not please ask again.

 

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Can anyone help me figure out how to decipher the accompanying info attached to my K-1 for estates and trusts so I can answer the turbo tax questions?

I'll try leaving out code B and see where it goes.

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