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Level 2
April 11, 2020
Question

Business expenses vs. qualified business expense

  • April 11, 2020
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For a small business, how can we calculate which scenario leads to paying the least amount of federal income tax:

 

A) taking all of our business expenses as deductions; 

 

or

 

B) having a higher qualified business deduction?

 

HELP! (thanks)

5 replies

KrisD15
Level 15
April 11, 2020

You report your business expenses. 

The program computes the Qualified Business Deduction. 

You don't choose between the two, they are not options, they are separate deductions. 

 

After you enter your expenses/business deductions the program figures the 20% that is the Qualified Business Deduction (QBI).  

You are not allowed to NOT report expenses in order to boost the QBI. 

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Carl
Level 11
Level 11
April 11, 2020

Huh? Believe it or not, the IRS says you are "required" to deduct all of your business expenses. The only difference I see between your A and B, is the wording. You can't have A without B, and vice versa.

 

Rick19744
Level 13
Level 13
April 11, 2020

@Carl11_2 the difference between the two and the ultimate question was whether they can forgo deductions, which would in turn increase income and potentially provide a larger QBI deduction.

As was already noted, deductions are to be taken in the year incurred based on your method of accounting.

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Level 2
April 11, 2020

Thank you.  I did not know that the IRS requires a business to deduct all of its expenses.  Seems counter intuitive, as some may operate their business in such a way as to keep expenses to a minimum, while others might believe (rightly or wrongly) that if they incur greater expenses that may lead to a more profitable business.  Sounds like it may penalize businesses that operate on a shoestring. 

 

Just to clarify, the business in question is a start up individually owned LLC, which will file a schedule C to a 1040 for a married couple filing jointly.  Does this change anything?  Thanks again for your help.